Old 07-16-2013, 05:44 PM   #1
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It's sister photo was accepted. This one I am apparently having issues with contrast. Either too little or too much.

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This is the sister photo, which was taken on the sunnyside.

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Old 07-16-2013, 06:11 PM   #2
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If you can find a way to back off that bright hot spot without changing the rest, that would be helpful. The analogous spot on the accepted one isn't quite so bright/large.
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one is enough, dude. we don't need to see two of the exact same picture, basically.
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Glenn, I understand, but no reason why the second shot can't be on, say upload tomorrow. Hardly the worst singer in the choir, with respect to repetition - it's the endless wedgies that are the worst offenders! Plus, it makes for a nice pair.
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I had kind of viewed them as a pair. And the expressions of each are in stark contrast to one another.

And Glenn... does that go the same for wedge Metra shots?
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The rejected photo needs a bit more contrast, and maybe a bit of noise redux.

If I were you, I would take another shot from that session and submit that to the Trains mag 2013 contest : http://trn.trains.com/Interactive/We...0Sequence.aspx
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The rejected photo needs a bit more contrast, and maybe a bit of noise redux.

If I were you, I would take another shot from that session and submit that to the Trains mag 2013 contest : http://trn.trains.com/Interactive/We...0Sequence.aspx
Thanks for the tip! So maybe the one that was accepted:

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/443406

with any of the others rejected....

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...72&key=4357013
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...79&key=3574892

Or another to be determined..... Essentially a photo essay telling a story in three photos. This would probably allw for the use of photos that RP doesn't normally accept for esthetics.
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I have found the solution!

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I had kind of viewed them as a pair. And the expressions of each are in stark contrast to one another.

And Glenn... does that go the same for wedge Metra shots?
sure does. my point being though that you're uploading em in a row. wait a few weeks, people will be more likely to view a style of shot that they haven't seen recently. and the screeners will be more forgiving/interested in accepting
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Essentially a photo essay telling a story in three photos. This would probably allw for the use of photos that RP doesn't normally accept for esthetics.
Sure! RP is just one site, one set of opinions, just as Trains mag contest is another set of opinions. No reason why they should match up.
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sure does. my point being though that you're uploading em in a row. wait a few weeks, people will be more likely to view a style of shot that they haven't seen recently. and the screeners will be more forgiving/interested in accepting
And please don't take my reply as an insult. I was hoping the would lighten it up. You have much much more photos in there that are really good. I just don't have the time to get out there and shoot as much as I would like, so naturally when you shoot once or twice a year, you like to see as much of your work as possible make it. As I've said before, rejection for me is hard as I was an award winning photo journalist in college. This is a whole new ballgame. A fun but frustrating challenge. I had some good luck this morning though getting stuff accepted.
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This place is not for art photography. More like glamour photography for trains.
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one is enough, dude. we don't need to see two of the exact same picture, basically.
Oh bolderdash!

There are people who specialize in repetitive images - they sit in one spot and photograph two or three basically identical trains, then upload them all on the same day.

Then, they go out the next month and hit all the same spots again, same angle, same time of day more or less, same type of trains and the viewing crowd just eats that up (my observation based on view numbers).

So go ahead and upload multiple images of the same picture.

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Oh bolderdash!

There are people who specialize in repetitive images - they sit in one spot and photograph two or three basically identical trains, then upload them all on the same day.

Then, they go out the next month and hit all the same spots again, same angle, same time of day more or less, same type of trains and the viewing crowed just eats that up (my observation based on view numbers).

So go ahead and upload multiple images of the same picture.
Haha...amen. Well spoken!
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This place is not for art photography. More like glamour photography for trains.
That must explain the photos or rail, rail ties and logos on the side of boxcars that I see get accepted.
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I'm wondering what's compelling you to submit what is basically the exact same shot that is already accepted

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I mean, other than the different dirty guy behind the window, it's the same shot.
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Perhaps we should have a list of most whored out photo spots......

Here, I will start:

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Siberia, CA.

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Lol!!!

I like it - nice to have a new set of eyes at Strasburg!

The difference between engineers side and fireman's side is much more distinguishable (to me) then most photos in the database featuring CSX diesel wedges.

As for "telling a story" - good luck with that logic. You and I think alike which is dissimilar to admin. They seem to see each pic on it's own. Telling the story of the Acela 165 mph speed tests from last October was brutal.

There is a point, most (but not all...), will not bother nor notice in a search that there is more to the story then the single image itself.

On the other hand, some with interest in a particular subject will "do the math" and figure it out via a specific search.

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I like it - nice to have a new set of eyes at Strasburg!
I was beginning to think no one realized what I did!

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I mean, other than the different dirty guy behind the window, it's the same shot.
When I shoot I like to tell a story. If you look at my photos from that day, you get a better idea of the operation, etc. Yeah, probably not typical, but oh well.

Yes, they might be similiar, but they are still a set. As mentioned by others, anyone can sit at a spot weekend after weekend and take essentially the same photo with a different engine at the front, and many do. I don't have the time nor the patience. Maybe that's the photojournalist side of me.
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I was beginning to think no one realized what I did!

It took me a bit to get it until I figured out what you had done. Maybe I should submit that one. That would be a laugh.
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I've been away for a few days, so I'm playing forum catch-up. But the thing that stuns me about this shot is that after four days on the site, it's got less than 250 views! That sucks for such a great shot! This is one to proud of! Wait a few days and submitt the other one. They are different shots and both are excellent.
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And please don't take my reply as an insult. I was hoping the would lighten it up. You have much much more photos in there that are really good. I just don't have the time to get out there and shoot as much as I would like, so naturally when you shoot once or twice a year, you like to see as much of your work as possible make it. As I've said before, rejection for me is hard as I was an award winning photo journalist in college. This is a whole new ballgame. A fun but frustrating challenge. I had some good luck this morning though getting stuff accepted.
no worries, not insulted in anyway. Think of it this way: just because a photo is good doesn't mean its going to get on this website.
And I don't get out at all any more, most of my photos on here were taken between 2005-2006, when I was in 7th & 8th grade and had all the time in the world!
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I've been away for a few days, so I'm playing forum catch-up. But the thing that stuns me about this shot is that after four days on the site, it's got less than 250 views! That sucks for such a great shot! This is one to proud of! Wait a few days and submitt the other one. They are different shots and both are excellent.
The lack of views is why shots like this are so likely to be rejected in the first place. Management is trying to maximize views, thus the emphasis on crashes and new paint schemes, etc.
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