Old 06-16-2007, 08:03 PM   #1
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Ok, just got the reject for poor esthetic quality, I thought it was a great shot? Any thoughts??


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Old 06-16-2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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Great shot. I'm surprised it was not accepted. Appeal.
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:21 PM   #3
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Great shot. I'm surprised it was not accepted. Appeal.
Before you do, make sure you get rid of those dozen or so dust spots all over the sky...
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:02 PM   #4
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Great shot! I'd definitely appeal it if I were you.
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Maybe a bit of color/contrast work too.
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Tastes differ, I prefer the original to Glenn's, not only because of the contrast but because the original is on the yellow side and Glenn's is on the orange side. Of course, I have no clue what the color was at the time.

But for RP purposes, if the issue had been contrast, they would have said so!
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I like it. I agree with Ween and Cyclone, to a point. First step would be to clone out the dust spots (that is allowed!). Second step would be to play around with the contrast (+ or -) to get the big blob of sun to resemble a sun. Would you mind sharing your specs with us? Since there is no train I'm this shot is able to be re-done and potentially better not that this photo is terrible! (Trying to cover my a-- there.) Personally, I have found that using a high aperture (f16+) produces better sunsets than being wide open. I do not have any technical reasoning just experience. I would bring a tripod and try that next time.
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I like Glenn's version a lot, but I'd suggest you go back and include the railroad track that darts out of the right side of the frame.


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Re contrast, I see I am in the minority!

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I like Glenn's version a lot, but I'd suggest you go back and include the railroad track that darts out of the right side of the frame.
Joe, I saw that too, that is a distracting spot, but I think it is not the track coming back in from the right but rather something else. I think the track itself heads off the side and is gone.
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Joe, I saw that too, that is a distracting spot, but I thin it is not the track coming back in from the right but rather something else. I think the track itself heads off the side and is gone.
Let's see if I'm close; get lower and include the second signal head in the background? I honestly don't see the track as 'darting' out' since the background signal works as a nice frame and stops the eye. Like was said, "tastes differ."
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Usually I'm in the minority here to the point that Al Sharpton starts calling asking if I want him to start a boycott.



But it looks like the right most rail goes off frame while the left most rail stays on frame.


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But it looks like the right most rail goes off frame while the left most rail stays on frame.
What I see is that, just above the left rail at the point where it goes off the frame, there is a short but brightly reflective something going up and to the left, ending near the background signal. As it appears thicker than the glint on the rails at that point, I do not think it is the rails, not even two of them converging into one. The angle just looks all wrong.

But what do I know, I'm speculating. ML, what is it?
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I would have rejected it too. An open field takes up way too much of the frame to make it an interesting shot. Perhaps if you shot the signal on the right side it would have worked out better because the track isn't curving away from you.
Also, the color looks odd to me. I've never been to Idaho, but I've never seen a yellow sunset anywhere I've been.
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Well regardless it's an interesting photo.
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:37 PM   #15
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Ok, just got the reject for poor esthetic quality, I thought it was a great shot? Any thoughts??


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I think it needs a crop. Too much space on the left and too much sky on top. This allows a bit tighter crop and the top rail running out of the corner of the image...which I like to do with my photos.
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Looks like you got it in...

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Old 06-17-2007, 10:31 PM   #17
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Thought I'd go with the "full view" of the shot so no unanswered questions about what's to the right, lol. Thanks to all for the editing advice, I'm finding that image sensors are a real pain to keep clean.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:09 AM   #18
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Just saying the Mike B., further in the North, there are a fair amount of yellow sunsets!
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...7411862&size=o
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne...5535261&size=o
Okay, I'm cheating a bit here, the second one is a sunrise! But you get the picture...
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Just saying the Mike B., further in the North, there are a fair amount of yellow sunsets!
There are blue sunsets, red sunsets, orange sunsets, pink sunsets, etc...there's no reason there can't be a yellow sunset. Nice catch, trainboy.
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