Old 04-01-2015, 02:39 AM   #101
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You might check the settings on your monitor. It might be at a setting meant for the 1990s.


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Well I wouldn't be surprised...I did fuss with the settings a while back maybe messed something up. However, I'm looking at the picture at another place and it definitely has the drawn in vibe here. Not as hard cut as the laptop screen but palpable. I think that the screeners and these posters are using iMacs which correct or gloss over this when the actual print does have this problem. For example, the Carter pic of the sunset with the clouds a nice color but posterized and blown out, distorted...

By the way, is it really believable that the bell shape color of brightness in the sky could possibly be so small that the empire state building just happens to touch the outer circumfirence of the bell with it's spire? Doesn't that seem a little too convenient?

All of a sudden I am take a little umbrage at my monitor being blamed for this. I do not believe in photoshop addition of light effects like this. One reason is that it looks strange and fake. And I contend that is the case with this photograph.
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Well I wouldn't be surprised...I did fuss with the settings a while back maybe messed something up. However, I'm looking at the picture at another place and it definitely has the drawn in vibe here. Not as hard cut as the laptop screen but palpable. I think that the screeners and these posters are using iMacs which correct or gloss over this when the actual print does have this problem. For example, the Carter pic of the sunset with the clouds a nice color but posterized and blown out, distorted...

By the way, is it really believable that the bell shape color of brightness in the sky could possibly be so small that the empire state building just happens to touch the outer circumfirence of the bell with it's spire? Doesn't that seem a little too convenient?

All of a sudden I am take a little umbrage at my monitor being blamed for this. I do not believe in photoshop addition of light effects like this. One reason is that it looks strange and fake. And I contend that is the case with this photograph.
Looks fine on my Dell LED monitor.
Monitors vary, eyes vary. I'll bet some still think that the blue and black dress was white and gold.
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Old 04-01-2015, 03:36 PM   #103
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All of a sudden I am take a little umbrage at my monitor being blamed for this.
Why? I don't see your monitor getting on the internet and complaining about how it is being treated in this forum.

BTW, I have viewed the image on one desktop, two laptops, and a phone. No issues. So, yes, based on my limited evidence, IT IS THE FAULT OF YOUR MONITOR!!! Fie to your malfunctioning monitor! Away with it!
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:11 PM   #104
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I think it may be my monitor. For example, look at this pic, on my monitor it looks completely blurry. Every part of the picture, blurry, not just the moving train. That can't be possible, so it must be my monitor. I need a new computer!

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No, there's plenty of blurry to be seen in that shot.. lol

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I'll bet some still think that the blue and black dress was white and gold.
Well, considering there were three versions and one of them WAS white and gold...
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All of a sudden I am take a little umbrage at my monitor being blamed for this. I do not believe in photoshop addition of light effects like this. One reason is that it looks strange and fake. And I contend that is the case with this photograph.
Wait, which shot is strange and fake?

And can you elaborate on what you mean by "photoshop addition of light effects like this"?
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The tawny light in bell shape around sunset. Just happens to fit perfectly in the frame of the photo? Just happens to intersect the tip of the spire of the Empire State Building?

To me it looks like the bell shape, the zone of tawny color was drawn in in photoshop.

Notice how over by the plane it changes from tawny to dull sky right at the edge of the cloud?

Another way of looking at it, and this what makes it noticeable to me in thumbnail and full size, is to look at the top corners of the pic and follow those zones of dull light down to the tawny brilliant light. It looks fake to me, brushed in with what have you in photoshop, feathered a bit maybe, but palpably a line. A palpable line!

Do you agree?

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No, there's plenty of blurry to be seen in that shot.. lol

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Are you sure because I think it may be my monitor. Doesn't seem like a completely blurry shot would accepted here. That would below the image quality standard RP wants to maintain for the site, no?
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gosh, SFO777, have you not gotten the RP vibe yet? Inconsistency rules the day!

I find Chase's shot what I will call unprobematically blurred. AKA, it doesn't matter to the character of the shot. To me.
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gosh, SFO777, have you not gotten the RP vibe yet? Inconsistency rules the day!

I find Chase's shot what I will call unprobematically blurred. AKA, it doesn't matter to the character of the shot. To me.
so you find it blurred too? Well, I don't think this is a monitor problem then
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see you in a few weeks, Loyd!
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Maybe not. I'll be shooting most of the charter from Moorefield with the big Tamron

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Maybe not. I'll be shooting most of the charter from Moorefield with the big Tamron

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It would be fun to chase a bit, instead of ride. But I don't know the area. I'll repeat shots from before, just with green foliage this time.
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As will I. Maybe walk farther away to do some 400-600mm stuff.

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I had a brilliant idea. Here is what I'm seeing. A picture of this picture on my monitor. See, I think this shows the bell shape--or really more like a captain crunch hat shape. Doesn't it look just drawn in? Now are you willing to admit that I'm not crazy?!!!!!!???!!





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I find Chase's shot what I will call unprobematically blurred. AKA, it doesn't matter to the character of the shot. To me.
This one has tons of good Alco/MLW character (IMHO), but RP pronounced it problematically blurred...
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Do you agree?
Not at all. It looks perfectly fine on my monitor.
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Not at all. It looks perfectly fine on my monitor.
must be a monitor thing but take a look at what I'm seeing

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What you are seeing is what one usually sees when viewing a computer through a fine mesh sieve.

Seriously, I can see what you are seeing and it is your monitor or your browser settings. The transition of the colors is much finer here. It would be even cleaner were it printed in 14-bit color instead of displayed in 8-bit color, but it looks fine here.
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I think sometimes we forget that good images start with having a calibrated monitor. Many computer monitors and/or the drivers included with your computers have a set up procedure that will help remove color casts as well.


Google how to calibrate your monitor for more help.
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I would also mention I can see what you see but on my monitor it isn't very dramatic. It looks like a natural occurrence that was made more noticeable by a little post work. If I saw what your screen shot looks like I would say that isn't acceptable but I think your screen shot looks different on my monitor than it looks like on yours.
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Ok thanks for input. So it most certainly was drawn in but only noticeable on my computers. Does anyone know how to draw in that bell around the sun and blend it so it doens't look the way it looks in my picture of the picture?
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I bet what Dennis did was just desaturate or lower the color temperature of the corners of the photo to create a shape of a bell. Thoughts?
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