Old 11-27-2005, 11:27 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Nucor Steel Scraps a Baldwin

Rode by the Nucor Steel location in Darlington, SC yesterday and did not like what I saw --

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Baldwin #01 is not sitting on tracks or trucks and looks to be gutted before being scrapped. I hear that two of their other Baldwins have gotten the torch, but that #04 was re-engined. They did take delivery of another unit at some point --

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I am surprised there are not more shots of the Nucor Baldwins on this site. The only other one I found was this Patrick Treadway shot from the early 90s.

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Old 11-27-2005, 11:39 PM   #2
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Great photo. Too bad it had to be under those circumstances. Would certainly have been better to see it on the rails.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:51 PM   #3
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Thomas;

Out of maybe 20 times there, I've only caught a Baldwin once. Inclding yesterday. This shot was taken from off property.


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It would be nice to see someone buy it up and restore it.
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It would be nice to see someone buy it up and restore it.
Yea like a museum or something.
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Yea like a museum or something.
i wanna to know what will be the price of one loco of them?
also how many horse power are these locos?
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I watched Nucor Steel cut up a Hopper the other day. They used 'pinchers' on one of their mobile track hoe's. I still thought they used torches . . . the old girl did not even know what hit her. I don't think she felt a thing.

Too bad to lose these locos though . . . cars can be replaced.
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i wanna to know what will be the price of one loco of them?
also how many horse power are these locos?
See the following site for some information about these 1200 horsepower units.
http://yardlimit.railfan.net/baldwin/s-12/

Baldwin Hamilton Corporation was supporting these units with parts up to at least 15 or 20 years ago but I suspect parts are now hard to come by.
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thanks J for the link.
i have another question. what the weight of these units?
also what about the maximum speed?
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It's hard to blame a company for getting rid of an old unit where there are parts ofhard to come by. From a rainfan standpoint, I can moan and groan about it all Iwant. But moaning and groaning ain't pulling no cars. It would be nice to see at least one of them at least on static display somewhere. But again,a static display doesn't pay any bills either.


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Well, if a railroad is intent on keeping a rare locomotive running, such as a Baldwin, they could always have any parts they needed custom manufactured. It would be somewhat pricy, but if they had the money, it could be done.
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If they had the money and the desire.


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It's hard to blame a company for getting rid of an old unit where there are parts ofhard to come by. From a rainfan standpoint, I can moan and groan about it all Iwant. But moaning and groaning ain't pulling no cars. It would be nice to see at least one of them at least on static display somewhere. But again,a static display doesn't pay any bills either.
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Maximum Speed with 18:74 gear ratio - 60 mph
Total Approximate Weight (working order) - 240,000 lbs.
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Somebody must've been reading this thread. Posted Today:
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:06 PM   #15
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Those are good shots. Amazing what a mere 307 months can do to a locomotive.


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It is interesting that, since the creation of this thread, I have been seeing more shots of Baldwins posted, most notably the BLH Locomotives of the SMS Lines. I would like to thank all the photographers who have taken the time to document the waning days of these rare locomotives.

Pretty soon, I'll have to do my own documenting of my favorite locomotive company; ALCO. Soon, possibly as soon as this January, I am going to have to take a trip down to the Arkansas & Missouri RR. This is something long planned, but never done on my part.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:47 PM   #17
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Following from Railpace Magazine's Newsline

FORMER ERIE MINING BALDWINS HEADED FOR SOUTH JERSEY:
CSXT train Q-417-03 was last reported at CP-102, NY headed southbound on the River Subdivision. The train is powered by CSXT SD70MAC's 4715 and 4704 and consists of 101 loads and 23 empties that totals 13,264 tons and stretches 7,838 feet in length. In the consist are three former Erie Mining Company Baldwin Locomotives off their trucks riding on Canadian National heavy duty flatcars. The three units are in rough shape and one is missing it's cab. The trio of historic loocomotives is enroute to SMS Rail in Bridgeport, NJ (Conrail Technical Society E-mail Update - posted 1/03)
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I don't have specific current information about the Erie Mining units headed to SMS, but here is a website (with photographs) discussing the units within the past few years.

http://yardlimit.railfan.net/baldwin...mco/index.html

Here is additional informationi about SMS

http://yardlimit.railfan.net/baldwindiesels/sms/
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