Old 12-04-2010, 11:36 PM   #1
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They say it's not and I tweaked it and sent it back in. I don't see what they are so you guys point it out. and no I don't know how to put up the rejected one.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:53 PM   #2
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I'd level it with the vertical grey box thing next to the green BN unit. However, I'm not sure if this one would get on. I see:

-Train too far away
-Backlit
-Going away shot
-Foreground clutter

...as all possible rejection reasons..

Just my .02, let's see what everyone else has to say


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Old 12-04-2010, 11:59 PM   #3
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It's VERY slightly off, needs some CW, maybe .3

Like the other guy said, I dont know if it will get on due to all these other things. This is one of those "needs an SD60" types of shots...
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Scott the floors/tops of the windows on the Holiday Inn in the background appear to be sloping donwhill to the right, if you level by these the rest is off.
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I put a grid on the Holiday INN and it looked just fine. But my eyes aren't what they were too. If it gets bumped for going away then I will give up but with the other train coming at me I think it works? As you just don't get that all that much. I will see what some others say before I work the photo.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:30 AM   #6
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Scott the floors/tops of the windows on the Holiday Inn in the background appear to be sloping donwhill to the right, if you level by these the rest is off.
Yeah, I am not square to it so no it wont be but lines up vertical and think thats what there seeing???
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I agree with Daniel, except about the foreground clutter. In other words, I think you might be at risk to Going Away, Backlit, and Train Too Far Away. Do you have one where the nose on the farther units are lit? It, plus a recrop, might fair better.
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I have had zero luck with pictures like this that DIDNT have all that foreground booringness and where both were lit well and not too far away...
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Yeah, I am not square to it so no it wont be but lines up vertical and think thats what there seeing???
Yeah the verticals are ok by grid, so i halved the difference with floors level looks better, MAYBE.

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Scott the floors/tops of the windows on the Holiday Inn in the background appear to be sloping donwhill to the right...
As they should be. The building is sitting at an angle to the photographer (just as the locomotives are) which creates that effect. The verticals are the only thing that should appear level, and they are.
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[quote=crazytiger;126063]I agree with Daniel, except about the foreground clutter. In other words, I think you might be at risk to Going Away, Backlit, and Train Too Far Away. Do you have one where the nose on the farther units are lit? It, plus a recrop, might fair better.[/QUOTTE]

There on a switch making a left turn. One thing they have is a ton of switch heaters everywhere. May it let it go but I still like it dead space or not. I will probably give it a week and if I still like I may try a new copy.
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As they should be. The verticals are the only thing that should appear level, and they are.
Agree

So verticals level + unlevel rejection = appeal + shadows on second unit + backlit = peq.
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Lost the appeal. Oh well what bugs me is I know I am right, But not a great photo so it will be a flicker shot.
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Not a fan. Cool power, but dont like the composition.
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Not a fan. Cool power, but dont like the composition.
Watching as the shot was coming together the 2821 got there to fast as both trains wore moving about 10 MPH. If both showed at the optimum time they would taken the turnouts about 75' apart on the same track.
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