Old 07-06-2016, 11:41 PM   #1
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A few pics I am finally getting around to processing from the May 611 trips...

I need to say I realize these shots arent perfect, maybe not even that great. But considering subject matter, I would think they would give some leeway with the "rules".

The foreground clutter rejection is pretty weak. The location is fairly unique, no shots from here are on. So maybe they are rejecting them all?
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...87&key=1262266

This one is puzzling:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...42&key=9779829
I looked in the photobase, and found they accepted exactly 5 shots from Vicker this year. 4 of the 5 are virtually identical, from the same location, same angle. One is from a similar location, but a different angle. My photo is from a completely different angle, different side of the tracks, closeup shot..

Meanwhile, they accepted 50,000 literally identical shots taken from Blue Ridge, Webster and Villamont...

Yeah, this one is backlit... but deserving of being in? I dont know...
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:33 AM   #2
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1st Photo: Let that one go, the wires kill it for me and it just seems too cramped.

2nd Photo: Wait a few days and re-submit, also consider a wider view, get more of that plume!

3rd Photo: Not feeling it, light just isn't there for it to work, chalk it up to NS running wrong way that weekend.
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first: unique location? Maybe, but not one crying out to be seen, in my view. Slight going away angle, wires across the engines, no chance. You are an RP vet; I'm surprised you would question this one.

third: slightly going away, high sun, backlit, no.

second: perhaps they confused it with any of zillions of other 611 nose/plume shots. Coaling tower is nice. I've no complaint with the shot, as suggested, resubmit down the road. Include in remarks to screener that the location is unique in that this view of Vickers is unique to RP.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:34 AM   #4
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2nd and 3rd are fine with me. I would be "fired" as a screener pretty quickly, as I simply wouldn't reject shots I like.
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I like the second a lot but the other two don't do much for me.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:41 PM   #6
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Valid rejections imo. Not every 611 needs to be here. I havent and won't upload any of mine for that reason.

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Valid rejections imo. Not every 611 needs to be here. I havent and won't upload any of mine for that reason.
I completely get that, all in all I was genuinely disappointed by my efforts and results from that weekend, even though I had a good time.

Call it bad luck, being rusty, or whatever.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:21 PM   #8
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1. They just do not go for wires across the subject, regardless of the angle interest. One for the personal collection.

2. Agreed, this is a good one and I'd consider resubmitting later (not right away).

3. Try this in B&W.

Agreed on proficiency-- I get out maybe once a quarter these years and find I mess things up much more frequently than I used to. You would think after 30 years of doing this, it would be like riding a bike, but it is far from it!
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Vickers is ok but not a fan of the others,I'll give it to you that you found some different spots but don't think they were good choices for the lighting. #3 wouldve been alot better on Sunday morning going east in the clouds.
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Vickers is ok but not a fan of the others,I'll give it to you that you found some different spots but don't think they were good choices for the lighting. #3 wouldve been alot better on Sunday morning going east in the clouds.
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#3: The original intention was to shoot from the other side of the tracks, but the owner put up signs specifically telling people to stay out, and was actually out watching for people, so that kind of ruined that idea. I knew it would be backlit on the return trip, but stopped anyway.

#1: I always thought that would be a cool location, yes, it's slightly going away, yes there is a barely visible wire there. You have to look pretty hard to see it. I could have just removed the fucking thing in photoshop, but I was playing nice.
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Thoughts on this one?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...79&key=5515857

Again, trying a different composition than any of the other dozens of photos accepted here
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And as if 611 is common/standard power! Though, to some screeners, it might be seeming like it at this point...
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Thoughts on this one?

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Again, trying a different composition than any of the other dozens of photos accepted here
I like this one. No foamers in it like the rest of the photos you posted previously. Nice composition and I think you did a nice job with the processing.
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I like this one. No foamers in it like the rest of the photos you posted previously..
Come on, only a couple of them had foamers in them.

I think i'm going to appeal this one. There's plenty of light, and detail in this one, and it's an angle no one else had submitted of this location. Think the cloud in the upper right of the frame balanced out what would have been a pretty big dead spot. It just works for me.
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Couple more

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1st one: I enjoy the picture. Very nice smoke plume.
2nd one: Maybs it's just because I'm on my phone, but I don't see any noise.
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Well, they rejected my head-on shots of NKP 759 a few years ago, so I guess you could call that consistency.
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2nd one: Maybs it's just because I'm on my phone, but I don't see any noise.
Some people claim to have a magical ability to see noise/grain where others do not. [Seeing noise/grain without zooming in on the image? Color me skeptical!]
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First one is almost completely dead centered, and we all know how much rp likes that.

Not sure if I see noise on the second one or not.
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There's something funky going on in the trees above the people on the right.
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Not a fan of something that just sticks into the shot for no reason. If you had the base of the sign I would be fine with it.

Although, no insult to you in particular, the shot still would not break out of the 611 monotony. (Sacrilege?) To which I may have contributed ...
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There's something funky going on in the trees above the people on the right.
I think I see what you mean, I opened it up in photoshop full size and I think I selectively sharpened the trees and omitted that area, I never sharpen the smoke plume because it seems to introduce noise

So that area top right is less sharp than the rest of the trees, I wouldnt call it noise though. If that's what they want to call it, fine, I can probably fix that.
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Not a fan of something that just sticks into the shot for no reason. If you had the base of the sign I would be fine with it.

Although, no insult to you in particular, the shot still would not break out of the 611 monotony. (Sacrilege?) To which I may have contributed ...
I almost completely cropped the sign out, I struggled whether or not to leave it in
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Some people claim to have a magical ability to see noise/grain where others do not. [Seeing noise/grain without zooming in on the image? Color me skeptical!]
You don't see it because you are used to it from years of shooting film. Noise isn't an issue, it's a part of what you're used to.

As a photographer who has yet to fire a single frame of film, I can see it.

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I think the biggest issue for me is the blown out aggressive headlight.

Maybe a bit more contrast on them too.

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