Old 03-22-2009, 04:52 AM   #1
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Got the following rejects.
They are listed in order. 1st was original submission.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=655881106

Adjusted gamma and contrast.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=710389696

Went back to original and just did gamma and saturation
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=562311563

Reduced saturation a bit more. Don't know why overexposed has been added again as I only reduced the saturation over the previous shot.
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Old 03-22-2009, 05:13 AM   #2
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It's still overexposed -- as a good indicator, note how the white "excess height car" warning band is completely blown out. Also, regarding the composition, you have too much "empty" space to the left of the signal that isn't balanced on the right side of the image. I realize this is a grade crossing in a sufficiently urban location that C&G have been installed right up to the crossing, so it's likely there's a gate mechanism you didn't incorporate into the image, but nevertheless you should keep this kind of thing in mind when making future attempts.
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The image looks a bit cluttered in my opinion. If I were you, I'd move to a location that you could shoot a bit more wide, but that's just me.

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I agree with Chase. In fact, I'd put this one in my personal collection if it were me. Also, that watermark entirely too large and way too prominent.


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Do signals really count as clutter? Looks a little unlevel too, fix that and the exposure and i think it has a good chance.
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Do signals really count as clutter? Looks a little unlevel too, fix that and the exposure and i think it has a good chance.
In this photo, I find the signals to give that "cluttered" feeling, but in most cases, I believe that a signal adds to the image. The signal cabin (right) and the grass in the foreground also help it give that cluttered appearance, in my opinion.

Although, you haven't received the "bad cropping" rejection, so it may be perfectly fine.

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Thanks for any comments so far on this one. The issue I'm really having is the rejection for over exposure. These shots look OK on my Samsung 22" LCD flat screen with 20,000 to 1 contrast ratio. When I look at the shot I can see what you mean about the white on the top of the multi but the shot otherwise looks like my eye would see it in that location and that morning light. It is a nice bright shot location at that time of day for eastbounds. If it looks good on my end it makes it very tough to know what or how much to adjust by. It ends up being trial and error and I know it must frustrate the screeners as much as it does me when I can't tell how much to change it by. If I go much lower on some shots, not just this one they look under exposed. When I look at the shot on the camera it looks exposed OK when I look at it on my lap top it looks OK when I compare it visually to other shots that get accepted they look similar in exposure on my monitor.
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One thing which may help me is what do the screeners use to evaluate exposure levels and what are they viewing them on? Not all screens are equal nor are they all calibrated the same. I'm not saying mine is correct by any means but when other shots I view look similar in exposure on my monitor I don't know what to do.
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:50 AM   #9
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As for the composition, Obviously I was trying to get the units as much as possible between the signals. The signal box on the right is fairly large as in what you see is about a 1/4 of it's depth. To include it it would have made the forground weeds even more noticeable. I can certainly crop the left side a bit to even the space but as I said above it's the expose I got dinged with.
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