Old 06-18-2007, 03:09 PM   #1
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Ok this image was first rejected for Composition/Balance it had been cropped to eliminate some distracting elements. So I went back to the original image and submitted it (the second one on this post) and it was rejected for Bad Cropping.

Since the train was passing the ferry dock, it thought it important to include the boat.

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Old 06-18-2007, 03:27 PM   #2
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One opinion...

The cropped shot has a partial house on the right margin and is a bit tight at the bottom. I would loosen it a bit to include the entire white house and a bit more at the bottom. Alternatively, I would crop so as to lose the entire white house. The clouds are great!

But I would also at least try some perspective adjustment. On the original, it seems like the houses on the right are tilted in, yet the ferry is level. So I would adjust the perspective and also rotate a bit (because once you adjust the perspective, the ferry will no longer be level).

I look forward to seeing this one get in, it's going to be nice.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:38 PM   #3
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Alternatively, I would crop so as to lose the entire white house. The clouds are great!
Unfortunately, the way the shot was composed, if you crop off a bit of the right side (which it needs), you're going to lose a good deal of that wonderful sky.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:58 PM   #4
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Unfortunately, the way the shot was composed, if you crop off a bit of the right side (which it needs), you're going to lose a good deal of that wonderful sky.
Not a problem, I think, here is one at the original 4:3 aspect ratio and one at 5:4, which gets accepted here, see another recent thread. Jim, you chose a 3:2 which is unnecessarily restrictive.
PS: I just realized that it was YOUR 5:4 stuff we were talking about, Jim!
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:59 PM   #5
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Here's the 5:4.
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Not a problem, I think, here is one at the original 4:3 aspect ratio and one at 5:4, which gets accepted here, see another recent thread. Jim, you chose a 3:2 which is unnecessarily restrictive.
Oh, I agree, it IS an unnecessary restrictive. I just didn't want him to get hit with that contradictory "The photo is either too narrow vertically or horizontally" rejection.
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Oh, I agree, it IS an unnecessary restrictive. I just didn't want him to get hit with that contradictory "The photo is either too narrow vertically or horizontally" rejection.
You just want to keep the membership in the exclusive club of great 5:4 stuff on RP limited to you.
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You just want to keep the membership in the exclusive club of great 5:4 stuff on RP limited to you.
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Thanks guys. I'll mull over all this when I more time this evening and see what I can come up with.
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I would try for a vertical orientation, unfortunately the ferry is just to far away from the train to be considered part of the shot. Also keep an eye on those blown highlights in the clouds.

Cheers,

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I would try for a vertical orientation, unfortunately the ferry is just to far away from the train to be considered part of the shot. Also keep an eye on those blown highlights in the clouds.

Cheers,

Christine.
I was going to mention that, but I didn't want to complicate things.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:07 PM   #12
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After trying one more cropping in a landscape format and getting that one rejected too, I tried Christine's suggestion. I really wanted the boat in the shot. Unfortunately short of a helicopter, that was the best angle available with the sun where it was. I was already standing on the edge of sea wall.

Anyway's take a look, I can use all the hits I can get.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=190860
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:27 PM   #13
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Good job. Sucks about the boat, but I'm sure you'll get another chance.
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