Old 04-25-2012, 03:14 AM   #1
Dennis A. Livesey
Senior Member
 
Dennis A. Livesey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,985
Wink I found my new camera..gimme $3000.

Today I held a Nikon D800, took a head and shoulder shot with a Nikkor 85 mm f/ 1.4. Then I zoomed in all way in, 100 x (I swear) into an eyeball and it was.....

Perfect.

Utterly amazing. My Canon 40D starts goes to mush all the way in.

I would say it has to be due to the D800's 36MP sensor vs the 40D's 1MP.

And lots of other $$$$.

Donations will happily be accepted.
__________________
Dennis

I Foam Therefore I Am.

My pix on RailPics:

I am on Flickr as well:

"Dennis is such a God, he could do that with a camera obscura and some homemade acetate." Holloran Grade

"To me it looks drawn in in Paintshop. It looks like a puddle of orange on the sky." SFO777
Dennis A. Livesey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 03:17 AM   #2
Mgoldman
Senior Member
 
Mgoldman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,641
Default

40D has 1MP???

Time to read the instruction manual.
Topic: Setting resolution on your camera.

/Mitch
Mgoldman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 03:47 AM   #3
trainboysd40
Senior Member
 
trainboysd40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta on the CP Laggan Subdivision
Posts: 2,048
Send a message via MSN to trainboysd40
Default

Don't you worry, Canon's got a lovely camera that won't make you sell your lenses
__________________
got a D5 IIi and now he doesnt afread fo 12800 iSO
Youtube (Model Railway, Vlogs, Tutorials, and prototype)
My Website
Obligatory link to shots on RP, HERE
trainboysd40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 04:01 AM   #4
milwman
I shoot what I like
 
milwman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cedar Fall's, Iowa
Posts: 2,474
Send a message via Yahoo to milwman
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis A. Livesey View Post
Today I held a Nikon D800, took a head and shoulder shot with a Nikkor 85 mm f/ 1.4. Then I zoomed in all way in, 100 x (I swear) into an eyeball and it was.....

Perfect.

Utterly amazing. My Canon 40D starts goes to mush all the way in.

I would say it has to be due to the D800's 36MP sensor vs the 40D's 1MP.

And lots of other $$$$.

Donations will happily be accepted.
5Dmk3 will do all a fan needs+ Like low light.
__________________
Richard Scott Marsh I go by Scott long story

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22299476@N05/
milwman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 04:53 AM   #5
Dennis A. Livesey
Senior Member
 
Dennis A. Livesey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,985
Default

Ok, ok 10mp.

Anyway, the D800 is a stunning piece of equipment. Seeing that blow-up on that goregous rear screen, well, it would blow you away too.

This not meant to be a Nikon vs Canon war. Those exercises are pointless. The 5d3, as I prefer to call it just because I find it more efficient to drop the Mk, is also a fantastic.

I mentioned this because it was cool to see this incredible camera in action. Like bagging the first shot of a NS heritage.

When they are in stores, grab a CF card, go on in and shoot a few frames. You may never own one but you could at least drive it for awhile.

And that's cool too.
__________________
Dennis

I Foam Therefore I Am.

My pix on RailPics:

I am on Flickr as well:

"Dennis is such a God, he could do that with a camera obscura and some homemade acetate." Holloran Grade

"To me it looks drawn in in Paintshop. It looks like a puddle of orange on the sky." SFO777
Dennis A. Livesey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 04:57 AM   #6
Freericks
Met Fan
 
Freericks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,040
Default

Let me know if there's a buy one, get one free... I can take the second one off your hands.
Freericks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 06:32 AM   #7
Mgoldman
Senior Member
 
Mgoldman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,641
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis A. Livesey View Post
When they are in stores, grab a CF card, go on in and shoot a few frames.
Make it a 64 gigabyte card, lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freericks View Post
Let me know if there's a buy one, get one free... I can take the second one off your hands.
And, I'll take the first one off your hand.

/Mitch
Mgoldman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 07:30 AM   #8
Holloran Grade
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the California Republic
Posts: 2,774
Lightbulb Everybody likes a Nikon vs Canon war.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis A. Livesey View Post
This not meant to be a Nikon vs Canon war.
But I have a nifty graphic left over from the last one.

Name:  Calvin Pee Nikon.jpg
Views: 220
Size:  28.9 KB

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis A. Livesey View Post
Those exercises are pointless.
Not true, I made a nifty graphic that I can use in all further "Nikon vs Canon war[s]."

Admit it, "I" am so ahead of the game.
Holloran Grade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 12:03 PM   #9
milwman
I shoot what I like
 
milwman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cedar Fall's, Iowa
Posts: 2,474
Send a message via Yahoo to milwman
Default

Both make great cameras but Fujifilm is making X pro 1 a 16 MP x1.5 that has no AA filter as is as sharp as Canons 21 MP full frame. I am liking its high ISO's and light and small size! After the zoom comes out it's going to be a hell of a walk around camera. As a totally new camera and just out has some soft ware up grades needed but a new one was just issued, This is the camera I am starting to save for. At $1699 body and lenses $ 600 this may take some time! http://www.dpreview.com/articles/612...jifilm-x-pro1/
__________________
Richard Scott Marsh I go by Scott long story

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22299476@N05/

Last edited by milwman; 04-25-2012 at 12:23 PM.
milwman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 01:52 PM   #10
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

I wonder how long these high end cameras will hold up? I mean, you'd never in your life really need anything more than what they can do now. Maybe they'll be super cheap someday.
__________________
Now with Flickr!
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 07:40 PM   #11
KevinM
Senior Member
 
KevinM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,010
Default

I'm so envious of what the FF camera owners can do in low light that I'd be really tempted to just buy a D800 today. There's only one problem. I'd need all new everything. New glass, new memory cards, new spare batteries, probably a new bag....the list goes on.

One of the problems that you run into with the really high MP cameras is card performance. For most normal photography, it is not a problem, but for a steam shooter, burst mode is an absolute necessity and the camera's buffer is only so big. Unfortunately, these cameras can take pictures faster than most cards can accept the data. I have some 95 MB/sec cards and even those can't completely keep up with my D7000. I can just imagine how bad things would be if the images were twice the size.
__________________
/Kevin

My RP stuff is here.

Link to my Flickr Albums. Lots of Steam Railroad stuff there from all over the US.
KevinM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2012, 11:39 PM   #12
milwman
I shoot what I like
 
milwman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cedar Fall's, Iowa
Posts: 2,474
Send a message via Yahoo to milwman
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatchetman View Post
I wonder how long these high end cameras will hold up? I mean, you'd never in your life really need anything more than what they can do now. Maybe they'll be super cheap someday.
Not likely Cheep, They are over built and will out last 5 cheeper ones, Canons first 1D 12 MP is still going 3000 for the best looking ones.
__________________
Richard Scott Marsh I go by Scott long story

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22299476@N05/
milwman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 05:03 AM   #13
Dennis A. Livesey
Senior Member
 
Dennis A. Livesey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,985
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinM View Post
I'm so envious of what the FF camera owners can do in low light that I'd be really tempted to just buy a D800 today. There's only one problem. I'd need all new everything. New glass, new memory cards, new spare batteries, probably a new bag....the list goes on.

One of the problems that you run into with the really high MP cameras is card performance. For most normal photography, it is not a problem, but for a steam shooter, burst mode is an absolute necessity and the camera's buffer is only so big. Unfortunately, these cameras can take pictures faster than most cards can accept the data. I have some 95 MB/sec cards and even those can't completely keep up with my D7000. I can just imagine how bad things would be if the images were twice the size.

Kevin your cards probably are not the issue. My guess is the buffer can't write fast enough particularly as it fills. The D7000's buffer capacity is 11 15.5 MB 12bit RAW files. You can get up to 100 JPEGS.

The Nikon 4D buffer capacity will do a 92 frame burst of FX (36mm x 24mm) 15.4MB 12bit RAW files. The 4D will do a burst of up to 200 JPEG's!

The D800 buffer capacity will do a 21 frame burst of FX (36mm x 24mm)12bit 32.4 MB RAW files. It will do a burst of up to 100 JPEG's.

Cards such as the Lexar Professional 1000x 32GB or the SanDisk Extreme Pro will more than keep up.

The most important number of a memory card is one often not available. It is the Write speed. Usually the number most prominently displayed is the higher (but less important) read speed.

Rob Galbraith recently tested the above cards on the Nikon D3 and a Canon 1D.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/con...=7-11673-12268
__________________
Dennis

I Foam Therefore I Am.

My pix on RailPics:

I am on Flickr as well:

"Dennis is such a God, he could do that with a camera obscura and some homemade acetate." Holloran Grade

"To me it looks drawn in in Paintshop. It looks like a puddle of orange on the sky." SFO777
Dennis A. Livesey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 12:11 PM   #14
KevinM
Senior Member
 
KevinM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,010
Default

Hi Dennis,

I had never seen any specs for the D7000's buffer size, but discovered that number to be 11 RAW files by experiment. The SD cards that I am using are indeed Sandisk Extreme Pro, 95 MB/sec cards...the best I can buy at the moment. They are much better than the Sandisk Ultras that I used to buy, but they do not completely keep up with the camera.

The buffer size on the D7000 is the camera's Achilles Heel in my opinion. Very disappointing.

Right now, I'm trying to decide between a new camera and an end-of-year charter that's just been announced. The price difference is minimal.

Maybe Nikon will offer an upgrade on the D7000 if people bitch enough. It is otherwise a great camera.
__________________
/Kevin

My RP stuff is here.

Link to my Flickr Albums. Lots of Steam Railroad stuff there from all over the US.
KevinM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 12:42 PM   #15
Dennis A. Livesey
Senior Member
 
Dennis A. Livesey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,985
Default

Nikon D7000 manual, page 320 Memory Card Capacity.

http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/...2/D7000_EN.pdf

There are choices that might work for you. I dare say that you could go with 12 bit RAW compressed and get 15 pictures in the buffer.
__________________
Dennis

I Foam Therefore I Am.

My pix on RailPics:

I am on Flickr as well:

"Dennis is such a God, he could do that with a camera obscura and some homemade acetate." Holloran Grade

"To me it looks drawn in in Paintshop. It looks like a puddle of orange on the sky." SFO777
Dennis A. Livesey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #16
milwman
I shoot what I like
 
milwman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cedar Fall's, Iowa
Posts: 2,474
Send a message via Yahoo to milwman
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis A. Livesey View Post

I would say it has to be due to the D800's 36MP sensor

And lots of other $$$$.

Donations will happily be accepted.
Nikon May have a D600 FF thats cheeper coming out? Rumers
http://www.dslrboxs.com/1908/nikon-d...ll-frame-dslr/
__________________
Richard Scott Marsh I go by Scott long story

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22299476@N05/

Last edited by milwman; 04-26-2012 at 01:15 PM.
milwman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 06:38 PM   #17
trainboysd40
Senior Member
 
trainboysd40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta on the CP Laggan Subdivision
Posts: 2,048
Send a message via MSN to trainboysd40
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by milwman View Post
Not likely Cheep, They are over built and will out last 5 cheeper ones, Canons first 1D 12 MP is still going 3000 for the best looking ones.
I must be looking under all the wrong rocks! Nowadays, you can find a 1Ds mark II for between $1500 and $2000....which is fabulous.
__________________
got a D5 IIi and now he doesnt afread fo 12800 iSO
Youtube (Model Railway, Vlogs, Tutorials, and prototype)
My Website
Obligatory link to shots on RP, HERE
trainboysd40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2012, 12:41 PM   #18
milwman
I shoot what I like
 
milwman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cedar Fall's, Iowa
Posts: 2,474
Send a message via Yahoo to milwman
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trainboysd40 View Post
I must be looking under all the wrong rocks! Nowadays, you can find a 1Ds mark II for between $1500 and $2000....which is fabulous.
That would be the 1Ds mk1 and look used as most are pro Cameras and get banged around.
mk1 http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digi...990709310?r=FE
mk2 http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digi...990876820?r=FE
__________________
Richard Scott Marsh I go by Scott long story

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22299476@N05/

Last edited by milwman; 04-27-2012 at 12:49 PM.
milwman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.