Old 01-28-2015, 11:15 PM   #1
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Default Nitpicky screening today

After reading J-M Frybourg's comments about the rejection his picture received, I thought I would add my rejected photo up for discussion. This is my Flickr version:

Finishing Touches by K-Szok-Photography, on Flickr

Reason(s) for Rejection:

- Composition (Too Tight): The image is too tightly composed, meaning that there is not enough space between the subject and the edges of the photo.
- Open Nose Door: Open nose doors on trains led by wide/safety cab locomotives are considered distracting and are generally not accepted unless the open door is an important part of the overall scene such as a crew change,

Tight composition may be understandable, but the open door rejection seem absurd since the locomotive in a yard and there is someone working in the cab, which was mentioned in the caption. I zoomed in tight purposely to make it easier to see the person in the cab; hence, the tight composition.

I had another image rejected of aspect ratio and is waiting for the appeal to be processed.
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:43 PM   #2
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I tend to agree with the rejections. The crewman (Can you point him out to me? I think he's on the engineers' side but I'm not sure) isn't helping the story, so the door goes with it. It's really tight, and I would like to see some more of the scene from the yard. Is the RP rejection over sharpened as well?

I'm not seeing the reason to appeal it to be honest.

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Old 01-29-2015, 01:19 AM   #3
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I (gasp) agree with Loyd on this one, Ken.

It is tight, as you both agree. My first thought on the crewman was that Loyd could not see him perhaps because he was standing level, lol. But I'm having a hard time seeing the crewman or even the relevance since the is not by the door - entering, leaving or working by it.

The aspect - squarish, might be an issue on RP, too.

It's also a bit centered in the frame top to bottom.

As for open doors being "unappealing" and consequently not accepted on RP; are rolling stock wreck shots "appealing"? Are Darwin shots "appealing visually? Is poop?

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An additional thought to what's been said above: don't you own a polarizer?


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Old 01-29-2015, 03:02 AM   #5
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Oversharpened does come to mind ...

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The aspect - squarish, might be an issue on RP, too.
I agree with everything in the thread so far, but ... love to pick on Mitch! ... the shot is 800x541, just a weeee bit taller than 800x533 which is 3:2. Not squarish at all!
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Great shot. Is it a little oversharpened? Has that kind of grainy look and look at the side of the hopper at right.

The other pics posted on your flickr with this one are terrific!
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I do like the shot, but for RP's likes, the rejections are valid. I agree more with the Composition than the Open Door. Some of us might expect to see an Open Door on a locomotive in a yard.
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Thanks for your input. It stays on Flickr. The size that I liked from flickr does look over sharpened, but the full size looks fine to my eyes. The guy working in the cab is in the engineer's side.
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Was this a cropped picture? Is there anyway to pull the right top corner out a bit and maintain the effect of having the totally clutter-free composition you have now?

I don't think they looked at how the composition creates a very interesting interplay between the rails behind the power running up the composition and the rails infront of the power running across. It's an interesting effect. And the lightning is interesting too--is that halogen?

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Was this a cropped picture? Is there anyway to pull the right top corner out a bit and maintain the effect of having the totally clutter-free composition you have now?

I don't think they looked at how the composition creates a very interesting interplay between the rails behind the power running up the composition and the rails infront of the power running across. It's an interesting effect. And the lightning is interesting too--is that halogen?
This is pretty much the full frame after leveling and cropping down to get rid of the white margins after leveling. I was using my 100 - 400 on my 50D.
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:50 AM   #11
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I submitted this frame which shows more of the scene. We'll see if this one makes the cut.

Untitled by K-Szok-Photography, on Flickr

Thanks again for your help.

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Now that's much more interesting.

Maybe a bit more contrast (to bring out more color) would be helpful?
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An additional thought to what's been said above: don't you own a polarizer?


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And how would a polarizer help this scene?
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