Old 07-20-2011, 03:38 PM   #1
MTM9
Senior Member
 
MTM9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 167
Default Bad Cropping

I realize that I have too much sky in this picture, but I'm afraid if I crop any more off of the picture the train will be to high.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1309608460

Matt
MTM9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 04:16 PM   #2
Joe the Photog
Senior Member
 
Joe the Photog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,899
Default

The train is too centered, also appears to be leaning CW and theoverall quality is lacking. It looks at first glance to be a really old photo.
__________________
Joe the Photog Dot Com
Joe the Photog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 04:28 PM   #3
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

AHA! I was looking for a picture of that. I think that one is savable. Crop some off the bottom and smidge off right side. Fix contrast too.
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 04:48 PM   #4
MTM9
Senior Member
 
MTM9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 167
Default

Thank you for the advice. I think I'll try one more time to to salvage it and then go from there.
Matt
MTM9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:16 PM   #5
MTM9
Senior Member
 
MTM9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 167
Default

Well I tried three more times with no success. All were hit with bad cropping:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=303672454

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=950375&key=0

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=950382&key=0
MTM9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:18 PM   #6
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

show us the original so we know what to work with.
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:20 PM   #7
MTM9
Senior Member
 
MTM9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 167
Default

http://www.flickr.com/photos/molinem...in/photostream
MTM9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:21 PM   #8
Joe the Photog
Senior Member
 
Joe the Photog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,899
Default

It still looks off in IQ as well as lighting. Also, it looks to be leaning CW. I'm not a fan of it. And put the right engine in.
__________________
Joe the Photog Dot Com
Joe the Photog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:27 PM   #9
MTM9
Senior Member
 
MTM9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 167
Default

What do you mean by put the right engine in it?
MTM9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:33 PM   #10
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

the first two you whacked way too much off the left.

third one, cut a little more off bottom and just enough off left to make it a 4X6 ratio.

you got a histogram? maybe boost midtone contrast. maybe increase exposure and saturation the tiniest bit. I'd mess with it myself but i'm at work.
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 06:35 PM   #11
MTM9
Senior Member
 
MTM9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 167
Default

I don't have a histogram. All I'm working with is a bunch of garbage photo editing software.

I think I'll just let the picture go.

Matt
MTM9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 07:01 PM   #12
Joe the Photog
Senior Member
 
Joe the Photog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,899
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTM9 View Post
What do you mean by put the right engine in it?
Include the builder.
__________________
Joe the Photog Dot Com
Joe the Photog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2011, 07:16 PM   #13
Joe the Photog
Senior Member
 
Joe the Photog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,899
Default

Here is a quick stab at it from me. The first thing I did was to rotate 1% CCW. I also worked on the brightness to try to get the sky a little less over powering and played around a little with Shadows/Highlights. You might want to play around with it a little more if nothing else to get a better photo. Still not sold on the RP-worthiness of it.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg rp10a.jpg (477.4 KB, 94 views)
__________________
Joe the Photog Dot Com
Joe the Photog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 12:31 AM   #14
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

quick take. maybe a bit over the top

Name:  silverpilot.jpg
Views: 100
Size:  541.1 KB
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 01:35 AM   #15
Joe the Photog
Senior Member
 
Joe the Photog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,899
Default

Hatchetman;

Your version is still leaning CW. Don't be fooled by the post in the center of the shot. Look at the actual horizon.
__________________
Joe the Photog Dot Com

Last edited by Joe the Photog; 07-21-2011 at 01:40 AM.
Joe the Photog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 01:39 AM   #16
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

i forgot to level it.
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 02:27 AM   #17
JRMDC
Senior Member
 
JRMDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 11,202
Default

I think everyone is being fooled on the leveling. If I level on the distant horizon at the left (subsequently cropped off in my attachments), I also get the top of the corn on the right side level and appear to get verticals in the train close to vertical. I think the degree of super-elevation here is minimal. I rotated 4 degrees, not one!

Various takes on the light, the version ending in "2" is the basic shot, the "4" has an overall light tweak, the "4b" has additional work excluding the sky.

Sorry, I could not get bigger than 640x480 off the flickr site, not sure why.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 5956789950b2.jpg (197.2 KB, 77 views)
File Type: jpg 5956789950b4.jpg (201.7 KB, 84 views)
File Type: jpg 5956789950b4b.jpg (196.2 KB, 86 views)
__________________
My RP pix are here.
My Flickr pix are here.

My commentaries on rail pictures are in my blog.

RP Photo Albums:
Cabooses
Engine Details
Farm and Train
Plumes!
Railroad Details
Signal Details
Switchstand Shots
JRMDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 02:57 AM   #18
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

my version probably needs a little more cropped (like janusz'), but i like the engine lower in the frame.
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 03:07 AM   #19
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

ok. more crop, leveled to corn
Attached Images
File Type: jpg silverpilot2.jpg (387.1 KB, 74 views)
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 01:22 PM   #20
JRMDC
Senior Member
 
JRMDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 11,202
Default

Did you attach the wrong file? Or maybe you leveled on the slope behind the corn. I leveled on the top of the corn. Look also at the distant horizon on the left edge, that has the same slope as the top of the corn. Not level.
__________________
My RP pix are here.
My Flickr pix are here.

My commentaries on rail pictures are in my blog.

RP Photo Albums:
Cabooses
Engine Details
Farm and Train
Plumes!
Railroad Details
Signal Details
Switchstand Shots
JRMDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 01:34 PM   #21
Hatchetman
Part-Time Railfan
 
Hatchetman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,381
Default

I leveled the corn vertically. Corn grows straight up no matter the slope of the hill. But I may not have done it accurately....
Hatchetman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 02:11 PM   #22
JRMDC
Senior Member
 
JRMDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 11,202
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatchetman View Post
I leveled the corn vertically. Corn grows straight up no matter the slope of the hill. But I may not have done it accurately....
Ah, OK. The corn could be growing on a slope. I still think the shot is tilted, but at this point I won't say that with any certainty. Also, at that location, is there a down grade?
__________________
My RP pix are here.
My Flickr pix are here.

My commentaries on rail pictures are in my blog.

RP Photo Albums:
Cabooses
Engine Details
Farm and Train
Plumes!
Railroad Details
Signal Details
Switchstand Shots
JRMDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 02:14 PM   #23
mark woody
Senior Member
 
mark woody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Mudgee N.S.W. Australia
Posts: 641
Default

Love the shot, I think J might have it right in the 4b, heres my 0.02 leveled on the corn stalks also and adjusted in histogram levels.

Last edited by mark woody; 05-27-2014 at 11:52 AM.
mark woody is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.