Old 02-24-2009, 03:08 AM   #1
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Evening,

I had some two images rejected, was looking for some advice.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=649351&key=0

Bad contrast
Bad cropping


http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=507761235

Bad cropping


These look fixable, and I really like these shots; I was hoping that the guidence of another set of eyes could help me 'see the light' on these.

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Old 02-24-2009, 03:14 AM   #2
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Old 02-24-2009, 03:21 AM   #3
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#1 They might be seing the loco centered vertically. Do you have more room to move it up or down? Down IMO without knowing what you might have to work with.

#2 Too much on the left (or not close enough interest from the building in the BG for this angle.)
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#1 very nice, I'd accept it! My guess is that they want you to crop a bit off the right side

#2 everything seems too high - in keeping the foreground you have pushed the engine up high and it looks odd there - the left right balance may be an issue also but to me it is the high position that leaps out
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What jumps out at me in the second shot is the obvious trail of footprints leading directly to where the photo was taken -- they're the dominant subject in the bottom third of the composition and detract from the overall effect of the image (namely, freshly-fallen snow coating the world). While you should be able to do some cropping to reduce their impact, this should also be a lesson learned: When shooting in snow, if at all possible start far away from your subject and work closer so that you don't capture disturbed snow in your images. Obviously, this might not be feasible in an urban environment, and may even be desirable in the boonies if one wants to show animal tracks, which is why this should be considered a rule of...
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Old 02-24-2009, 05:18 AM   #6
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Guys,

Thank you very much for your thoughts, suggestions, and prompt responses!

I'll tinker with these when I have some time over the next few days, and I'll let ya know how they work out... and maybe beg for more help!

Thanks!

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What jumps out at me in the second shot is the obvious trail of footprints leading directly to where the photo was taken -- they're the dominant subject in the bottom third of the composition and detract from the overall effect of the image (namely, freshly-fallen snow coating the world). While you should be able to do some cropping to reduce their impact, this should also be a lesson learned: When shooting in snow, if at all possible start far away from your subject and work closer so that you don't capture disturbed snow in your images.
Or, if you DO screw up the virgin snow with your footprints, clone 'em out.
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What jumps out at me in the second shot is the obvious trail of footprints leading directly to where the photo was taken -- they're the dominant subject in the bottom third of the composition and detract from the overall effect of the image (namely, freshly-fallen snow coating the world).
Footprints can work the other way also, they can be part of the story, a different story, rather than detracting.

I think that this shot has other problems, but I don't think that a substantial foreground with undisturbed flat snow is necessarily better than a foreground with something going on in it, like footprints.
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Photo two
lot of dead space on the left side.
Take about a quarter of it out and it should work.
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First one, just go through the checklist provided by the screener. I have no feedback on noise, I generally don't notice it, but as far as contrast, not enough, no black in the shot. As far as rotation, make verticals vertical, such as the left edge of the structure or the lead vertical edge of the first car.

Second, night shots are always tough on color. But the snow doesn't look good - it may be appropriate to the color of the light that was there, I don't know, but it doesn't look good.

Third isn't my cup of tea in general so I won't comment on this one specifically.
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I have a shot I would like to add to this forum, b/c if being rejected for bad color. I have lots of trouble knowing what's wrong with this submission.

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Any help (once again) would be greatly appreciated...
As a general note, when you get a single reject, think you've fixed it and resubmit and then get multiple reject reasons (or PEQ) - I think that's a pretty clear sign from the screener that they just don't like it. If it were me, I'd keep these in my "personal collection" and just move on.

The first image/location probably has more "meaning" to you than to others. For me it's just a static display covered with snow in the dark with poor lighting. I've had my share of shots I really like that just simply didn't work for this site for one reason or another so I can empathize with you but I think this is one of those situations.
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