Old 10-22-2008, 04:48 AM   #1
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I had these two shots rejecected for Poor Esthetic Quality,

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=985363961

...and with having these shots already accepted (no, I'm not calling anyone out... they're my shots) ...are these rejects worth an appeal, or not? What do you think of the shots?

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Old 10-22-2008, 04:56 AM   #2
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Personally, I quite like them both, and I would appeal. But then again, my taste and that of the screeners do not always agree . . .

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Old 10-22-2008, 04:59 AM   #3
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The first doesnt look to sharp and slightly unlevel to me. The second may be a tad unlevel also.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:02 AM   #4
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The second one, I don't like the angle, the sky, the power line or the pole. Not a fan of the cropping either.

For the first one, way too much space above the top of the cross bucks. I agree with Walter that it doesn't look sharp. But my real question here is: Why should I care about this shot? I need a caption or some way to understand that I'm not just looking at a grade crossing without a train nearby.

In other words, what's the point of the photograph? Without that, I'd think it should get a PEQ.


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Old 10-22-2008, 06:05 AM   #5
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The first shot is way soft and has some wacky color issues (it looks too green), and the second shot isn't lit very well. Let them slide.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:27 PM   #6
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The second one, I don't like the angle, the sky, the power line or the pole.
Just curious, Joe, what don't you like about the sky? That's the first thing that jumped out at me. Even though the subject doesn't do anything for me, the sky really grabbed me.
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:06 PM   #7
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Like Jim, I too liked the sky in the second shot. If the crossing signal was better lit/train in the distance it may have gotten in.

On the first, there is too much yellow there without something else, Either an engine on the left side crossing into frame or maybe even the light flashing, maybe more colour in behind would help.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:00 PM   #8
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Both shots are well composed and have interesting elements (bright trees, nice sky) but nothing much is happening and the screeners may just feel they have enough shots of crossing flashers without a train. These are good, but just not good enough to knock anyone's socks off. The problem with the PEQ rejection is that shots of good esthetic quality get kicked simply because RP decides they don't want them, for whatever reason, and the photographer is left wondering why. Your wigwag shot that you referenced got in because they are scarce and people find them interesting. The crossing gate shot had an interesting perspective, looking us so sharply. You tried that with your second crossing flasher shot, but without the gate pointing up, it's not as effective.

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Save these for the debut of the crossingflasherpictures.com web site
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Save these for the debut of the crossingflasherpictures.com web site
Thats a tongue twister, let me know when you have that site up and running!

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Would make it through the screeners on the new site?
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Greetings,

I had these two shots rejecected for Poor Esthetic Quality,

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=593898&key=0
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=985363961

...and with having these shots already accepted (no, I'm not calling anyone out... they're my shots) ...are these rejects worth an appeal, or not? What do you think of the shots?

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I would say the photos are good but not good enough for this site. The sky is cool in the second photo so maybe you could work on a tighter crop.
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Old 10-26-2008, 08:24 PM   #12
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Sorry for my late reply, but....

As you can see, I decided to let these roll - I need to go find some actual trains!

Thanks to all of you for your advice, and to those of you who liked the shots, thank you for the compliments!
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:49 PM   #13
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Just curious, Joe, what don't you like about the sky? That's the first thing that jumped out at me. Even though the subject doesn't do anything for me, the sky really grabbed me.
It seemed to me that the cloud cover muted the sun and didn't really light up the shot enough. To me, there's soemthing else about the sky I can't relly put my finger on. Maybe it wasn't clearly defined as I thought it should be.


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