Old 03-24-2011, 09:24 PM   #1
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Hi all, any thoughts on this on, not sure where I'm cropping wrong:

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Old 03-24-2011, 09:34 PM   #2
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It looks like it is leaning a bit ccw. I don't like the way the catenary is cut off. Maybe you could loosen the crop a bit on all sides.
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I'd go the other way. Crop a bunch off the right and top. pretend the catenary isn't there and place the train where you would otherwise. Ideally you'd have a picture with the train further forward.
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I think it's a case where you needed to let the train come through the catenary a little more. Cropping said catenary is probably going to kill the shot. Do you have a later frame or two?
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:17 AM   #5
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I tried the loosen crop idea but that didnt work:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=915432&key=0

I will see how it looks if I crop it tighter otherwise I think Joe is right that the train should have been just a bit more forward. Unfortunately I dont have a frame like that, only one where the train is quite a bit more forward, I will see if I can use that one.
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for sh*ts and giggles cut off the catenary off completely from right side and top and see if the resolution is OK.
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for sh*ts and giggles cut off the catenary off completely from right side and top and see if the resolution is OK.
I really don't like that idea; do that and you're just left with a tightly cropped wedge view of the train, with a seemingly-random steel pole sticking up on the left side. The photo works best with the near catenary bridge framing the train because it clearly tells the story that this is an electrified railroad; it's every bit as important in the composition as the train itself. As Fanie acknowledged, I agree that Joe has the right concept for improving the shot.
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That's why I said (before Joe) "Ideally you'd have a picture with the train further forward."

But apparently we do not have that.
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I think it's a case where you needed to let the train come through the catenary a little more. Cropping said catenary is probably going to kill the shot. Do you have a later frame or two?
That's exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps move a couple steps to the right, also, if possible without trespassing.
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That's why I said (before Joe) "Ideally you'd have a picture with the train further forward."
OK, you agree. So why push him to submit a sub-par photo simply for the sake of getting it accepted on RP when there is clearly a better way to compose the shot and achieve a more pleasing result?
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I'm just trying to be helpful. The screener said "bad crop," which could mean there is a better way to crop the photo. Given the photo we have, I gave my opinion as to what might be the best way to optimize it.
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:58 PM   #12
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Thanks for the ideas guys but I think I will let this one go. I cropped all the catenary away as was also suggested but then Im stuck with a metal pole on the left as Dave said, which spoils the shot. Next time Im out there I will try to get the train just a bit more forward.

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