Old 02-22-2015, 09:51 PM   #1
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Default Bad Composition.

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I was trying to break from the ordinary, but they didn't like it (surprise, surprise).

What do you think? Just a tighter crop in on the train?
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:33 AM   #2
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I feel like if the train was up near the signal in the middle that the balance would be much better. Do you have a frame with that?
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Nope, it was tied down, countless jobs die there so the shot can be done again.
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Nope, it was tied down, countless jobs die there so the shot can be done again.
Oops, didn't read the caption.
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I feel like if the train was up near the signal in the middle that the balance would be much better. Do you have a frame with that?
I agree, too bad it's not doable.
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Nope, it was tied down, countless jobs die there so the shot can be done again.

Could you check to see if the coast is clear, and maybe move it a little? Would anybody notice if it was in a very slightly different spot?


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I think it would be good photo to be accepted since it contains a lot of surrounding elements, ie information which I like rather than a train between two signals perfectly placed, in the middle of nowhere. Closer it would also lose the view of trailing units.

I see a photo of rails in a grade crossing is creative but don't put the train in the wrong place?? I just had to redo a shot that was too loose, maybe it will get in but has lost my interpretation of the scene which emphasized the fresh snow in the foreground.

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Ok, WTF. What's wrong with these two?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...56&key=6810770
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=3161208

These two don't make sense to me.
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Ok, WTF. What's wrong with these two?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...56&key=6810770
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=3161208

These two don't make sense to me.
John,

If possible, go to a wider (4x6) aspect ratio and cut out the bottom of the fist photo. For the second one, tilt up a little.

It looks like the main focal point is centered vertically in both shots. JMHO - your mileage may vary.

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First one - the nose of the CP is right in the middle. RP doesn't care for focal points in a shot being centered. Well, I see I have basically repeated the rejection reason. Crop heavily on the left, even to the point of sacrificing the SOO in the distant left side. RP doesn't care about showing the yard, they want a shot with a certain type of balance. While you are at it, crop top and bottom. RP is often not a fan of a shot where the subject is way over there.

Second one - I don't have a great feel for this type of shot, on RP. I'd crop left - no "ON", just "PACIFIC" and crop top and bottom - lots of empty space in the frame. You might end up cropping heavily on the left, dumping the "PACIFIC" also and leaving just the cab (and full truck).
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Second one - I don't have a great feel for this type of shot, on RP. I'd crop left - no "ON", just "PACIFIC" and crop top and bottom - lots of empty space in the frame. You might end up cropping heavily on the left, dumping the "PACIFIC" also and leaving just the cab (and full truck).
That's the kind of shot I prefer to see more of the going-away unit:

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Yes, Jim, I guess I assumed he didn't have more to include. I'd rather see an entire engine, but really that is just a different composition. He has already made the choice to go with a partial engine. That gets you proximity and detail on the side of the cab. It's a choice, not a flaw.

The shot in question has waaay too much foreground, and too much sky, for my tastes. Besides the engine, it helps your shot, for me, that you have something filling up the right side and sky a bit.
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ROT needs to be applied in all cases.
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