Old 10-11-2011, 02:07 AM   #1
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So, I really like this one, but I wasn't sure how the screeners would. They decided to point the obvious.

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What do you guys think?
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:13 AM   #2
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too dark and not enough pop to make it work well.

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Thanks for the input, Loyd.

Here's some more pointing the obvious : http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=813320745
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Those two rejections are simply trying to tell you that your attempts weren't good enough to be accepted. It's obvious of your attempts, they just don't work.

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To me, one thing that doesn't make the Backlit shot work is out of your control -- the fact that it's light power. A train trailing down the track would be much more asthetically pleasing to my eye. But there is also some Bad Color and Bad Contrast going on there, too.
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Those two rejections are simply trying to tell you that your attempts weren't good enough to be accepted. It's obvious of your attempts, they just don't work.

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Here I sit wondering "what in the world is wrong with his second rejection?" I don't see anything that makes it "not good enough."

Foreground Obstruction: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=813320745

My thought: Where's the obstruction? The sign is framing the train. If you're going to reject the shot at least do it for the correct reason, which to me would be (if anything) bad cropping.
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To me, one thing that doesn't make the Backlit shot work is out of your control -- the fact that it's light power. A train trailing down the track would be much more asthetically pleasing to my eye. But there is also some Bad Color and Bad Contrast going on there, too.
Well, I kind of like the fact that the trailing unit's red lights are on. I agree that it would be better with a long train climbing up the hill, though. I'll have to try this one again. Would you have any advice to make the color and contrast better? I'm definately keeping this one for my personal collection, and would love to improve it some more if I can.

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My thought: Where's the obstruction? The sign is framing the train. If you're going to reject the shot at least do it for the correct reason, which to me would be (if anything) bad cropping.
My thoughts, exactly! I could have shot this one wedgie style, but I thought the light power was particularly well suited for this shot idea... oh well, at least I tried!
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Everyone would be better served if the screeners would just say "PEQ" to the shots they don't like.
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My thought: Where's the obstruction? The sign is framing the train. If you're going to reject the shot at least do it for the correct reason, which to me would be (if anything) bad cropping.
Makes you wonder if they hit the wrong rejection. I've seen plenty of shots through signs and fences like this that don't get rejected, so perhaps it should have been bad cropping or PEQ. The foreground obstruction/clutter doesn't stand up when this exact technique has been accepted time and time again on RP.

Perhaps the bad cropping leads to the cluttered foreground? Hmm...
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Perhaps the bad cropping leads to the cluttered foreground? Hmm...
Maybe a looser crop would work better?
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Those two rejections are simply trying to tell you that your attempts weren't good enough to be accepted. It's obvious of your attempts, they just don't work.
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Here I sit wondering "what in the world is wrong with his second rejection?" I don't see anything that makes it "not good enough."

Foreground Obstruction: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=813320745

My thought: Where's the obstruction? The sign is framing the train. If you're going to reject the shot at least do it for the correct reason, which to me would be (if anything) bad cropping.
Agreed. That's strong wording from a screener, that the attempts, especially the second one, don't work. Photographers here are encouraged to think outside the box and be creative, and when their creativity is met with heavy-handed resistance, it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. I agree with the bad cropping suggestion, as I would tighten it up to get rid of the road at right, but there is no foreground obstruction, and it is a creative framing of a light engine shot.

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Thanks for the help guys!

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nice job. you got rid of the foreground clutter!
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Here I sit wondering "what in the world is wrong with his second rejection?" I don't see anything that makes it "not good enough."

Foreground Obstruction: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=813320745

My thought: Where's the obstruction? The sign is framing the train. If you're going to reject the shot at least do it for the correct reason, which to me would be (if anything) bad cropping.
See Wyatt there's something I agree with you on. Obstruction, ha...yeah I totally see it...

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