Old 09-27-2008, 10:38 PM   #1
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Hey everyone,

I was browsing through a collection of photos from a recent trip I took with a good friend of mine, and stumbled upon a picture I thought would be a interesting photo to add to the database.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1244619549

It was rejected for Poor Esthetic quality, and I know it has some other issues too, backlit, and unlevel, I really didnt know how to level this one to make it look correct, so I used the flipout LCD screen. Just was wanting some of your thoughts on it.

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Old 09-27-2008, 10:59 PM   #2
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For me, I guess it's sort of like, "Well, there's the camera on the tripod by the bench, and there's a train in the background." In other words, there's a bit too much going on (other than the train) for my taste. Other opinions may vary; that's just my two cents.

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Old 09-27-2008, 11:19 PM   #3
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The idea is not so bad, and I remember having seen the one or other similar photos at RP.net, but not with both video & photo camera.
Here are my poor esthetic's as shot today:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=581236&key=0
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1098684186
and one with the banana car (see my thread too):
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1183928030
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:30 AM   #4
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I think the screener at the moment must have a pretty clear idea of what he wants. Poor Aesthetic Quality seems to be very common. I've just had three submissions bounced for this reason together. The shots were taken today in Ghana, of which there is only one shot on the Db (mine from June). I've seen lots of track shots on the site, so I don't know how to predict this one.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=581260&key=0
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1157710393
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=581249&key=0

I think sometimes it is possibly a fine (subjective) line between rejection for poor aesthetic quality and an accepted shot that has hits that go through the roof.

I think I am improving my cropping and composition, but it seems that whenever I try something a liitle different (basically non-wedgie), I get knocked back. Perhaps my imagination is below par for non-traditional railway photos.

I honestly thought that viewers would like to see this awful track and the strange painted-on eagle logo. I guess I got that wrong.
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:57 AM   #5
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Clint: The poor light makes the shot easier to dismiss, as does the sloppy arrangement of the straps, especially covering the flip out screen.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:26 AM   #6
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Graham: Awful track does not by itself make a composition. In the first the composition is weak and the shot becomes just a grab shot/snapshot of trash and rocks.

The second, much the same. Did you even notice the partial foot upper left? What do you find interesting in the shot? Whatever it is, build the shot around that. Maybe it is the uneven rails (are the rails to the left of a heavier weight?), maybe the contrast between the hex nuts and square bolts?

Third, tighter crop and a person in the window would do wonders, for my tastes at least.
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Thanks for your thought Janusz. As ever, very useful.

These two were held over in the queue for a long time, as if the screener wasn't able to make a quick decision. In the end it was the same poor aesthetic quality rejection for this one;
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1262767447

I like it, but I accept that the composition/cropping may not be as good as others would have achieved.

This one got in.
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These two were held over in the queue for a long time, as if the screener wasn't able to make a quick decision.
That usually means that the first screener couldn't come to a decision and decided to have a second screener also look at it.

I like the shot; it makes a nice abandonment sort of shot and tells a nice story about the state of affairs at the station. It is interesting, the person, the rails going up to the door. One minor technical point, try to separate things, so the switch weight is not overlapping with the bench.

And maybe step to the right just a bit so the person/bench is a bit over to side and you have door upper left, switch lower middle and a wee bit left of center, bench upper right. Here, you could crop a bit from the right also. All minor adjustments to think about.

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Old 10-01-2008, 12:15 AM   #9
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Janusz,
I did have another shot that I took at the same time. This is a bit wider and more from the side. I think it's perhaps a little more like what you suggested?
Anyway, the screener seemed to like it.
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I'm actually quite pleased to get a"different" shot accepted.

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I think it's perhaps a little more like what you suggested? ... I'm actually quite pleased to get a"different" shot accepted.
Well, no, but it works great also! Congrats; fun to do "different" shots.
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Clint;

That's a good idea and it almost works. The background seems blown out and the straps are distracting. I'm not sure this particular shot will get in -- PEQ rejections are *not* always final, mind you -- but I'd surely suggest trying it again somewhere down the line.


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