Old 08-13-2005, 02:06 AM   #1
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Help! I can't find my spectrum analyzer glasses! This photo was rejected for, "Bad Color: Not enough color depth or too much color saturation."

The only treatment given to the photo was 10% sharpening, 2% gamma correction, 2% contrast and 2% saturation. Compared to the original, the changes are hardly noticable. Any input is appreciated.


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Old 08-13-2005, 06:22 AM   #2
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I'm surprised it was rejected for bad color, because there are several other unfortunate aspets working against the shot. The crossing arms falls in front of the train as does the shadow. The crossing itself should either be in the frame or out of the frame. Here, it's both. And the fence near the back of the lead unit is also unfortunate.

As they say, this one may be for your personal collection.


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Old 08-13-2005, 01:38 PM   #3
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I studied the picture before reading Joe's comments and I didn't even notice the crossing arm. I think the idea of framing with the crossing apparatus was a great idea and well done. The shadows and white car are a bit distracting, but overall it is a great picture.
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Old 08-13-2005, 03:41 PM   #4
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I studied the picture before reading Joe's comments and I didn't even notice the crossing arm. I think the idea of framing with the crossing apparatus was a great idea and well done. The shadows and white car are a bit distracting, but overall it is a great picture.
Thanks for the compliment. I wasn't sure what kind of results I would get with this composition, considering the location of the building's shadow.
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I'm surprised it was rejected for bad color, because there are several other unfortunate aspets working against the shot. The crossing arms falls in front of the train as does the shadow. The crossing itself should either be in the frame or out of the frame. Here, it's both. And the fence near the back of the lead unit is also unfortunate.

As they say, this one may be for your personal collection.


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I know the shot isn't optimum, and for it's composure, the distractive nature of the elements are minimal IMO. I cropped it a few different ways, and this one looked the best. I'm glad to be on the forum with this one, because it helps to understand how to photo is seen. Bad color? This is the aspect that has me boggled. It's either "too much" or "not enough" according to the rejection, but why? I would guess it's not enough because a large portion of the photo isn't reflecting color in the same brightness. Does the large area of shadow clash with the bright quonset hut in the background?

I hope I don't sound overly concerned, I just want to learn the values of photography.

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The color looked fine to me. There's always the possibility that the screener hit the wrong button when making his final decision. Maybe he meant "Bad Cropping" but hit "Bad Color." It's not a bad shot, but I doubt the screeners would let it pass.


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Not sure, but is this one of the BNSF units that faded badly because of bad paint? I have seen some awful looking units, but it the paint used, not your processing.
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Yes, that unit had fading paint, and when you look at the cigar band, the yellow really stands out. I thought this might have been the reason for rejection; that they thought the color/saturation was altered.
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I was worried about this one due to the faded nearly-peach color.

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Not sure, but is this one of the BNSF units that faded badly because of bad paint?
According to Del Grosso's BNSF '04-'05 Locomotive Review, "...a significant number of C44-9W's numbered in the 4400-4500 series [were] delivered with faulty paint." He states most were re-painted under warranty.
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Nice job!

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Thank you! -And to everyone for your input.
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