Old 07-20-2013, 12:49 AM   #1
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Had this one bounced for "Horizon Unlevel" last night, and I've been stewing about what to do with it ever since:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...24&key=7538379

Honestly, I just can't see messing with this. With a Lightroom grid on it, the car and cab verticals, the sand dome and even the window frames in the building behind the locomotive appear to be pretty much plumb....at least in the center 2/3rds of the photo. Not only that, but when I just glance at it, the photo just does not immediately appear to be leaning. I've had stuff way more questionable than this accepted.

What am I missing guys? I'd appeal this, but I like to make sure I'm on the high ground when I do that.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thanks, in advance!
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:17 AM   #2
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Wait two days and play screener roulette.
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:42 AM   #3
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I am going to agree with whatever HG, ER, Troll's name is.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what you could do leveling wise with that Kevin, except possibly do some perspective correction and then re-level, but I think that would make it look funky.

Freericks says it looks right.
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I put a grid on it and it looked perfectly level to me. Though I'm not a professional like the screeners.
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:50 AM   #5
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If you ask me, it's blatantly leaning towards the center.

I'd rotate 0 clockwise. If that doesn't work, try rotating CCW but by twice that amount.

Then, and only then, would I make an appeal to the screener with an e-card and maybe an Amazon gift card stating: "I don't know what I did, but I'm sorry".

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......Freericks says it looks right.
Like you could trade that for a cupa joe somewhere in NJ.

Paramus perhaps?

I'd HDR it!
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Was this built from similar plans as the Leviathan #63? Looks really similar.
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Was this built from similar plans as the Leviathan #63? Looks really similar.
I'll level with you Jim. Yes. It was.

http://www.leviathan63.com/

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Was this built from similar plans as the Leviathan #63? Looks really similar.
Hi Jim,

Yes, Leviathan 63 and York 17 were built from the plans created in the late 1970s for the two replica engines at the Golden Spike National Historic Site at Promontory Summit in Utah. Those two engines (Jupiter and 119) were constructed by O'Connor Engineering. David Kloke was able to obtain those plans....apparently they are in the public domain as a result of being developed for a Government Project. The Leviathan 63 is essentially a copy of the Central Pacific Jupiter and the York is mostly a copy of the 119, but with a different pilot and stack....and a few other add-ons. Of the four replicas that now exist, the York is the only engine that's pulling live passenger trains on a daily basis. Very pretty engine.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:51 PM   #10
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Given that I had the same issue with a photo the other week, and when I appealed got the appeal rejected with no comment, as well as Troy's issue with his photo the other day, I'd recommend rotating it half a pubic hair in whatever direction you want and then resubmitting it. At this point I have to conclude that at least two screeners, including at least one of the Chrises, have desks that are unlevel, causing them to reject images that are in fact level when viewed on monitors sitting on desks that are level.

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