Old 06-04-2005, 04:21 PM   #1
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My pics keep getting rejected. What am I doing wrong?


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Old 06-04-2005, 04:26 PM   #2
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This one is dark, a bit fuzzy, and part of the car is cut off. Also, the car is not centered well, it is cropped too high in the picture. It also appears way out of proportion to what you need for acceptance, 1024 X 768 or 800 X 600.

That, and side shots of common freight cars are not usually accepted on this site.

Help us here, too, and state the reason it was rejected so we have a better idea and can help you around that problem.

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Old 06-04-2005, 04:29 PM   #3
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its a dark shot of a common car coupled with other cars. it is poorly cropped shoudl be closer to 1024X768.
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What about this?
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Old 06-04-2005, 04:32 PM   #5
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[IMG]BN Hop.JPG[/IMG]
It also appears somewhat unlevel. Screeners here are sticklers for well lit trucks. Not the darkness of the right-side trucks.

BN may be a fallen flag, but any grain train will still have countless numbers of these grain hoppers.
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It also does not really fit what they are looking for. It's a picture of some cars in front of a grain elevator. Now, if you can find a way to capture the same cars in some artistic fashion, that's a different story. Make it something interesting with the lighting or something like that. As it is, it is simply a picture that anyone driving by could shoot and does not have much impact.

As mentioned above, it is also dark and unlevel.
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The quality is poor; dark, soft, and not level. The cropping leaves something to be desired as well. Keep in mind extra dead space (trees really aren't germaine to the photo), the sign creates a fair right side focal point.

For the subject, it would probably get a bad motive rejection. Try and get a lead unit coming toward the sign. (You run a better chance of rejections if you get a train "going away" from you.) This photos might of had a slim chance if some one was unloading or loading a car; something of interest to the general visitor.

Do you have any photos posted here?
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Her e is a rare shot that I took of a BNSF GP9u (ex-AT&SF) running on the GNBC Shortline sometime in 2004 but still rejected. Is there any way to fix the blur and fuzzyness?
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Her e is a rare shot that I took of a BNSF GP9u (ex-AT&SF) running on the GNBC Shortline sometime in 2004 but still rejected. Is there any way to fix the blur and fuzzyness?
That depends on how what photographic equipment you use. I can't speak to film cameras, but it could be the camera, slide/print and scanner.


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You (should) get an email sent to the account given when you registered.
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There wouldn't be a way to fix that. Is that a print? If so, perhaps you can rescan it, but it looks pretty far gone.

The rejections and reasons for them will be emailed to you.

Another suggestion on getting things accepted is to simply browse around and see what is accepted already. Now, sometimes there are pictures accepted that maybe shouldn't be, but in general, it will start you off on ideas of lighting, composition, etc.
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I am going to guess you have a fairly old camera or lens.

That is why I went digital. A new film camera wasn't my cup of tea.

(Assuming you get prints) Take a look at them before scanning them. Look around at the posted pics, as 4kV advised. If they don't look the same quality as what is up, scanning and laboring in an imaging program really won't save them.
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I thought this shot looked good.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=132738

but still rejected.
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I thought this shot looked good.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=132738

but still rejected.
This pic looks sharper, although still dark.

Now you have to ask yourself (if you want the screeners to judge your photographs significant*): what is the point, interest or motive behind the picture? Okay, so this details a grain silo in Cordell, OK. What make this different from any other spur that can be seen in the Midwest?

My opinion: this is a current design for silos/elevators, a dime a dozen. Now, a B&W photo of a decrepit grain elevator, with some has-been milling company logo from 1930 would make a good photo.

The more you chat in the forums and submit photos, the better you will understand what us, ametuer foamers, have learned here at RP.net.

*If you don't want the owner's of RP.net to "deem" a photo unworthy, keep it for your personal collection. If you don't want your photographs judged, then a personal site is what the doctor ordered.
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Another piece of advice is to think about your rejections next time you are out. Learn from them. Remember why a picture wasn't accepted last time, and work around it when setting up for a shot. Frame the picture correctly, make sure the exposure is correct, level the shot, make sure there is no foreground clutter, and on and on and on. Pretty soon it all simply becomes second nature.


Remember, don't just take a picture, take a photograph. My three year old kid can take a picture, all you do is point a camera and press a button (and take the lens cap off first.) A photograph is a well thought out piece of art.
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You forgot to add:

Unless it has Union Pacific in it...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
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Hey now, if you excluded every one of your pictures with UP in it, you would have no shots of your stay in St. Louis.
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Well said. Also, one thing to remember is that there is a lot of trial and error in photography. Some things work and some things don't. My advice is just to keep trying and it'll come around to you. Again, as mentioned before, browse around the site to see what kind of material is accepted. One more thing to remember is don't be afraid to get creative.
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We all know what's on the site. The kind of material accepted to this site is a manifestation of what the screeners want to see. By definition, creative photographs are images that are original, say, unlike wedge shots of C44-9Ws, and if they are original, then they aren't (yet) on the site.

If you want to get images on railpictures.net, take a good look around and copy what's already on the site. Make sure your horizon is level, the sun is at your back, and there is no clutter near the tracks. Crop to a 4:3 aspect ratio and, please, have a good motive in going trackside as photographers with bad motive aren't tolerated around here.

If you want to take creative photos, you are on your own. Sorry, but creative photography is personal and you answer to yourself first. It doesn't come with the ego boost or the me-too chorus, but a sense of having accomplished something yourself.



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...and the hundreds (thousands?) of visitors who stop by this site everyday to see what's new...
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If you want to get images on railpictures.net, take a good look around and copy what's already on the site.
Be careful of the "too similar to already accepted photo."

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If you want to take creative photos, you are on your own. Sorry, but creative photography is personal and you answer to yourself first.
This is exactly the point from my last post. Shoot to your heart's content, but realize a personal favorite may not be interesting to other people (especially the gatekeepers, a.k.a. screeners).
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It doesn't come with the ego boost or the me-too chorus, but a sense of having accomplished something yourself.
To post a photo here, one is opening judgement onto one's work. There is a certain pride behind showing one's work, and it is reinforced by comments or how many views it has recieved. If there wasn't pride behind one's work, then a photographer wouldn't share his/her work with others - let alone, digitize it and post it on newsgroups or other non-screened sites. They just sit at home alone and look at slides on the basement wall.

I take plenty of photos which I know instantly, that they won't be accepted here, so I don't waste my time nor the screener's time.
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all of these pictures, are blurry, dark, soft..and a lot of them have no point what-so-ever. You can see a bunch of random hoppers anywhere, and the tracks have no point. Try to take pictures of more locomotives, because thats what normally gets accpeted. good luck
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all of these pictures, are blurry, dark, soft..and a lot of them have no point what-so-ever. You can see a bunch of random hoppers anywhere, and the tracks have no point.
That is uncalled for. They do have a point, especially to the shooter. That is the point, this is a hobby first. I can argue that another picture of a Dash 9 has no point what-so-ever.

Swayne64, what the posters have pointed out beforehand is correct, at least the technical points. Just take a look around and ask how to take a proper photo to get uploaded to this site. But do not make that your goal. Shoot these because you enjoy pictures of trains and this hobby. This site was started because people did not have a database to share their photos. Not to have a contest.
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...and the hundreds (thousands?) of visitors who stop by this site everyday to see what's new...
10-15 thousand folks per day as of the last several months.
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10-15 thousand folks per day as of the last several months.
Well, those people aren't coming back if they don't like what they see, so until there are 10-15 thousand people a day who disagree with the screeners, I think this site will do just fine!
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We all know what's on the site. The kind of material accepted to this site is a manifestation of what the screeners want to see. By definition, creative photographs are images that are original, say, unlike wedge shots of C44-9Ws, and if they are original, then they aren't (yet) on the site.
I'd like to point you in the direction of Ray Lewis. Take a look at his collection here on RP.NET. He thinks "outside the box" and has come up with some creative images that are true works of art. I'm sure Ray has had some images rejected here (who hasn't). However, if some of his creativity would rub off on all of us, there would be less whining about "creative" photos that are rejected and more compliments to each other for the photos that ARE accepted.
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