Old 12-08-2008, 12:28 AM   #1
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Don't tell me about the obstructions!

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Sorry travis, don't like. Why? For reasons you won't let me tell, lol. I think if you were to find a clearing through the foliage where you could zoom through and get an unobstructed view of the lead, and get some very nice bokeh with the color it could work. Kinda like this:

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Don't like it i see obstructions! na doesn't work just to far out there.
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Nothing personal Travis but it looks like it was a random grab shot. Looks too hurried in my opinion. It also looks to be buried by vegetation which isn't something I care for.
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I'm with Ben. Great idea but you need a focus point that is unobstructed.

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Little too brushy, I agree. I am going for the pan/pace shot that the train is clear even though it was shot through obstructons. I liked the pace idea of the lead unit turning through the curve with rest of the train going back.

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Don't tell me about the obstructions!
Sure. And let's not consider the voting record of a politician running for office.

Too obstructed, but especially at the trucks, making it look like just the hoods are being pushed through a jungle somehow. And much of the obstructions are just plain ugly.

The foliage doesn't frame, it covers. We are not being allowed a peek, we are straining to see.
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I do not normally mind a bit of foreground clutter, but in this case there's just too much shit in the way. You need to invest in one of those chainsaws we've spoken about recently.
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Well, as you know, I have become deeply concerned about the rules of railfan photography. I am delighted to announce that, after much searching over the weekend, I have found them.

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ARTHUR: Bring Up the Holy Railfan Camera of CaNikon! . . . Err, how does it work?

BROTHER MAYNARD: Railfan Photography, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty One.

ANOTHER MONK (reading): And St. Michael raised his Camera up on high, saying, "O Lord bless this thy Holy Railfan Camera, that with it thou mayest document authentic representations of scenes following thy Holy Rules of Railfan Photography." And the Lord did grin and railfans did count upon the louvers and doors and fill necks and pneumatic hoses and trailing units and battery boxes and . . .

BROTHER MAYNARD: Err, skip a bit brother ...

ANOTHER MONK: ... Er ... oh, yes ... and the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take off the Holy Lens Cap, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shalt be the number of exposures thou shalt shoot, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.

Five is right out.

Once the number three, being the third exposure, be reached, then puttest away thou thy Holy Railfan Camera of CaNikon. If thou dost not, or if thou gets all artsy-fartsy and "non-documentational," then I, the Lord, will consider thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

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I do not think this view follows the rules.
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Sure. And let's not consider the voting record of a politician running for office.

Too obstructed, but especially at the trucks, making it look like just the hoods are being pushed through a jungle somehow. And much of the obstructions are just plain ugly.

The foliage doesn't frame, it covers. We are not being allowed a peek, we are straining to see.
I should have been clearer. I was seeing what people thought of the concept of a left to right pace or pan shot whith some of the train moving back to front. I also like the idea of shooting thru stuff where the pace shot still leaves the subject clear. I know there is to much brush and also the lower part of the photo cuts off the train so besides that (if that was missing) I was wondering what you thought. I just didn't want a bunch of replies stating the obvious.
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If it was a clean shot i would like it.
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I should have been clearer. I was seeing what people thought of the concept of a left to right pace or pan shot whith some of the train moving back to front. I also like the idea of shooting thru stuff where the pace shot still leaves the subject clear. I know there is to much brush and also the lower part of the photo cuts off the train so besides that (if that was missing) I was wondering what you thought. I just didn't want a bunch of replies stating the obvious.
One doesn't think left to right pan when one looks at that shot - at least to me; I didn't even realize it was a pan until you told me. My follow-up reaction is that a pan won't work very well with blurred foreground obstruction to this extent or in this pattern.

This shot might work very well with shallow DoF so the train stands out anyway, but blurring the obstruction by panning seems not to work, certainly not in this case.

I have no comment on the left/right back/front juxtaposition as this shot is hardly a good one to evaluate on that basis.
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I have no comment on the left/right back/front juxtaposition as this shot is hardly a good one to evaluate on that basis.
Do you know where in my vocabulary this word is? juxtaposition - neither do I.

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Do you know where in my vocabulary this word is? juxtaposition - neither do I.

You can buy books about it at amazon.
Not only the book (looks like scifi; I've heard of Piers Anthony but I can't recall in what context):
http://www.amazon.com/Juxtaposition-.../dp/0345349342

but also the music!
http://www.amazon.com/Juxtaposition-.../dp/B0002HV67W

Never heard of them, here is a quote from the comments: "Radian play on the outer fringes of the already left-of-center post-rock heading." Whatever that means.
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Do you know where in my vocabulary this word is? juxtaposition - neither do I.

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I don't see how it applies here since it refers to things side by side...............
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