Old 11-26-2013, 02:28 AM   #1
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I am going to take a couple minutes off from criticizing others shots to share my "unworthy" shots so you all can berate me for even submitting these.

Unlevel? Bad Composition? I guess
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...05&key=3812718
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...24&key=5981554

Backlit? Maybe not the best lighting, but at least it's got full nose light
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...33&key=2844318

Now i'm gonna throw this one out there, I knew it wouldnt get accepted, but thought what the hell
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...67&key=1554047

So fire away
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:47 AM   #2
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Yes and yes. Nice power though.

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Backlit? Maybe not the best lighting, but at least it's got full nose light
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...33&key=2844318
No side light = bad. So, legit rejection.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:34 AM   #3
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The last one is actually the best. Not sure why they got you for backlit because you got plenty of light on the nose. It's not perfect noselight but it's enough. Recrop and its a nice shot.

I wouldnt fret too much on your other rejections. You nailed that train a few times.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=459595&nseq=2
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=459936&nseq=4
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:49 AM   #4
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The last one is actually the best. Not sure why they got you for backlit because you got plenty of light on the nose. It's not perfect noselight but it's enough. Recrop and its a nice shot.

I wouldnt fret too much on your other rejections. You nailed that train a few times.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=459595&nseq=2
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=459936&nseq=4
I have more, but was playing peek-a-boo with the clouds all day. Wanted to get those CPL's at Lithia.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:07 AM   #5
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I am sorry to say that I agree with all rejections, but the first one (the unlevel) feels like a grab shot and I wouldn't try to level it if it were mine.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:07 PM   #6
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I am sorry to say that I agree with all rejections, but the first one (the unlevel) feels like a grab shot and I wouldn't try to level it if it were mine.
I can respect your opinion on the first one, but help me out on that one, what's unlevel? Dead center we have a power pole which is level.

Truthfully it was a grab shot in that I was somewhere I shouldn't be and was one of those drive in, drive out things.

But my point of posting all of these is that, absolutely, by the letter of the law, they are legit rejections, but compared to some of the other nosense which has gotten on lately (and how many roster shots of a steam engine in a parking lot do we need), I figure these are better than some of them. Maybe just let these go.

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Old 11-26-2013, 01:26 PM   #7
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I can respect your opinion on the first one, but help me out on that one, what's unlevel? Dead center we have a power pole which is level.
Funny you said "dead center" because that's where the locomotive is in relation to the photograph. Thus, Bad Cropping. But to the naked eye, the entire photo looks unlevel with the possible exception of the pole. It looks like the train itself as well as the trailer trackside is leaning about 1% CW.

As far as framing, I know you're trying to get those ground level signs in the shot. I would have gone more for a straight angle, low to the ground shot, possibly even blurring the train itself.
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But my point of posting all of these is that, absolutely, by the letter of the law, they are legit rejections, but compared to some of the other nosense which has gotten on lately (and how many roster shots of a steam engine in a parking lot do we need), I figure these are better than some of them. Maybe just let these go
I'm not sure what you shots, legitimately rejected, have to do with the UP 4014 shots which, as we all know, is both newsworthy and historic. (Not to say that the blurry Steve Crise shot should have got in, mind you.)
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Truthfully it was a grab shot in that I was somewhere I shouldn't be and was one of those drive in, drive out things.
So instead of Unlevel Horizon or Bad Cropping, you're saying it should have been rejected for PEQ?!

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Old 11-26-2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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Let em go. I've got the same blah style photos from those locations, too

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I can respect your opinion on the first one, but help me out on that one, what's unlevel? Dead center we have a power pole which is level.

Truthfully it was a grab shot in that I was somewhere I shouldn't be and was one of those drive in, drive out things.

But my point of posting all of these is that, absolutely, by the letter of the law, they are legit rejections, but compared to some of the other nosense which has gotten on lately (and how many roster shots of a steam engine in a parking lot do we need), I figure these are better than some of them. Maybe just let these go.
That pole must be leaning. The train itself, the office trailer, even the stop sign are all leaning to the right to my eye (to the point that it's an immediate sense of something wrong). It is possible that the locomotive being dead center is contributing to that. I am often amazed when I look at my own shots and think, "this doesn't need to be leveled," how when I then level them anyway I can't believe how wrong I was. I say that to state that my "immediate sense of something wrong" may not be totally reliable, but it is my reaction to seeing the image.

As to rosters shots of steam engines in a parking lot, it is a one time event and there are about two and a half dozen in the data base since the event began ten days ago. That is an average of about three shots a day, which would be less than 3% of photos uploaded, I am guessing (too lazy to go back and actually check). Now that it is no longer moving and they are putting a fence up around it (I think tomorrow) the image flow should abate considerably. The only clean fireman's side roster was however rejected for some more artsy, less in focus images.

Regarding the other stuff (the blown out sky and overly noisy and oddly obstructed), I'm at the same loss that you are. But this may be a mystery that we shall never solve.
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first one would make kind of a cool pano, but they don't accept those.
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:38 PM   #11
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Now i'm gonna throw this one out there, I knew it wouldnt get accepted, but thought what the hell
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...67&key=1554047
I really like this one, but it definitely needs some help. Here's a quick edit. For the cropping, I changed it to 4:5 ratio and took a little off the bottom and the right side. It felt like the bridge was out of balance with how much of the railing you had on the right side and very little on the left.

The background foliage REALLY needed to be toned down and maybe saturated a bit. I used the highlights tool and then used the burn tool to darken it and increase the contrast. With the foliage looking as bright as it was, you were getting the harsh, high sun look.

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Old 11-28-2013, 12:25 AM   #12
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I worked a little on that one, didnt seem to do any good.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...40&key=1659403
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...28&key=1293549
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Old 11-28-2013, 01:16 AM   #13
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If they are looking at the histogram, then it's showing too much black. Too much black is showing on the bridge girder on the right. Try dodging the midtones on that side of the girder and it should fix that histogram right up.

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Old 11-29-2013, 03:03 AM   #14
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How about this one, 3 attempts

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...99&key=3027089
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...02&key=8496740
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...41&key=3691152

The softness they are perceiving I think is the blur caused by exhaust. Other than maybe the numberboard on the right
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