Old 12-24-2016, 04:12 AM   #1
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Default Going away, but that's the point.

It's going away, but, uh, that's kinda the point!

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Mine is bad, but this is fine? (not knocking the shot, I think it's awesome, just making a point).

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Old 12-24-2016, 12:00 PM   #2
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I suspect that the lighting played a role here. The lighting angle is not great. This shot also doesn't have the dramatic, blowing snow that is seen in the example you posted. The only other thing I see are some tiny cropping issues. There are bits of cut-off objects in the photo, such as that orange thing in the upper left corner, and something else on the right border. These may not bother some viewers, but I prefer to avoid border distractions if I can.

As we've all learned over the years, you CAN voilate the "guidelines" here, such as the "going-away" shot, but when you tread on that territory, a technically good photo is no longer good enough. It becomes completely discretionary for the screener. If the shot doesn't excite him much, you're done.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:15 PM   #3
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I saw Bill's shot yesterday and while I love the old CPR livery and the scene is very dramatic, the lack of sharpness really jumped out at me. But obviously the screener felt the pros outweighed the cons.

Kevin pretty much nailed it with regard to your rejected shot. The basic scene looks fine to me, decent composition and lots of interesting stuff. But I am both a CP fan and a fan of going away shots. But there is something lacking in the lighting. The only suggestion I can make is you might try darkening the highlights a bit, they look slightly blown out.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:04 PM   #4
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I've seen shots like yours get on, but the cropping (right side) is an issue, and background (yard) appears to not be in very good focus, lighting and shadows are playing a role too.

The other guy's shot is not at all comparable to yours. At all...

His shot is kind of lacking on focus, which for me is an issue, but it conveys a sense of action that yours just does not.
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I'd think maybe cropping off the right so more attention given to the yard and crew member on the ground and where the train is headed. Not sure of the out of focus background, if that is a problem, not so much to me.

Bill's photo was a tough shot, esp when you turn away. Not sure how much is focus and how much is all the snow and exhaust around.

Maybe I should revisit this going away rejection but I missed on the composition, not that easy. I started new and submitted a few snow shots and all rejected. Finally got a couple in on appeal and then quit for 6 months. Might e fun to retry some now.

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It's going away, but, uh, that's kinda the point.

Mine is bad, but this is fine? (not knocking the shot, I think it's awesome, just making a point).

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Funny, I was "focused" on this very shot for all the issues before this thread appeared. Hey, at least the distant pine trees seem to be in focus.
A front-coupled roster shot of a geep also made it into the top 4 a few days ago, so I guess anything is possible. Maybe I'll give the going-away LV Flickr shot seen at left a try.
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Maybe I should revisit this going away rejection but I missed on the composition, not that easy. I started new and submitted a few snow shots and all rejected. Finally got a couple in on appeal and then quit for 6 months. Might e fun to retry some now.

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I like the UPY snow shot, but I think I would remove the hue in favor of a cooler color temp.
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I'd think maybe cropping off the right so more attention given to the yard and crew member on the ground and where the train is headed. Not sure of the out of focus background, if that is a problem, not so much to me.

Bill's photo was a tough shot, esp when you turn away. Not sure how much is focus and how much is all the snow and exhaust around.

Maybe I should revisit this going away rejection but I missed on the composition, not that easy. I started new and submitted a few snow shots and all rejected. Finally got a couple in on appeal and then quit for 6 months. Might e fun to retry some now.

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I like the shot but it definitely has some color and contrast issues.
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I tried a quick and dirty run through Photoshop and came up with this, which may or may not be an improvement.
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Thanks, probably need to do something on that line, I'll give it a try.

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