Old 09-26-2006, 07:28 PM   #1
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I'm not even going to appeal this one. It got canned for backlighthing even though it was too the side. Personally I think it's a great photo none the less. enjoy.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:35 PM   #2
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I'm not even going to appeal this one. It got canned for backlighthing even though it was too the side. Personally I think it's a great photo none the less. enjoy.
WOW!!!! great photo i think you should take the time to appeal this one.
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:12 PM   #3
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Yeah, it's backlit. The front of the loco is entirely dark, and IMO that takes away from the photo. What you should do is come back in a couple months and take the same shot if possible, or even after a snowstorm. THat's a great scenic spot.
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Dave,
I love that spot too, and, BTW, all of my photos from there this spring got rejected too for the same reason
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:30 AM   #5
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Ken,

Pay for my gas and I'll go back!

How does this one look compared to the first one?
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:56 AM   #6
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Dave i think you should appeal that photo
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:09 AM   #7
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Pay for my gas and I'll go back!

How does this one look compared to the first one?
Hey, I'll just pay for my own gas and get a shot! Where is that? I was assuming somewhere in Socal, but is it actually northern Arizona?

I like that second crop a bunch more, and for some reason, I find the front of the engine being shaded less of a distraction. Submit that one, worse thing they can do is reject it!
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:17 PM   #8
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Looks like your second crop used a bit more shadow recovery on the nose. It's also a more dramatic crop.

BTW, both versions are good. I'd like to see the screeners start paying attention to the entire shot, and not just the engine. If you had shot that with nose light, the entire background would have been flat and featureless. It's the back lit shadows that make the background so appealing, so appeal it!

Of course winter would be nice too!

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Old 09-27-2006, 04:53 PM   #9
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Dave, the second shot has more impact than the first - I think that you should re-submit with the second version.
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Bad Motive, Poor Cropping, Oversharpend, the overlighted green brush on the left is way to distracting from the dark nose of the lead unit, the clouds in the background are too bright and distract for the actual train. IF you believe all this Dave, I've got some ocean front property in Iowa I'll sell you?

Great shot Dave!!
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Thanks for the comments, I'll probaby resubmit this weekend.
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I liked the first version and REALLY like the second. Hope it makes it in on appeal. IMHO it is a far more attractive (to me) picture than many that have made it in. This is probably a good example of the challenges associated with being consistent in anything as judgemental is picking good train pix. Different people, including the screeners, like and dislike different things. While the appeal process doesn't eliminate that, at least it ensures a different screener looks at it with perhaps a different view point. Net net RP gets high marks......but there are these moments of incredible frustration.
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Dave,

It is a very nice shot, on the second it sort of looks to me like it might be "over processed" as you can start to see some "grain" on the pilot.

I agree with Michael, this is one of those photos you just wish the screeners would take in the entire shot as opposed to just the train.

Is it just me though, or does the shadow on the nose/pilot area really help with the contrast? I can't quite put my finger on it, but just something about it helps the train blend in, but stand out at the same time.

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Old 10-02-2006, 03:30 PM   #14
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Well I finally resubmitted it this morning and it made it through.
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As did my other shot taken from above Keenbrook in Cajon Pass, it was rejected the first time for bad cropping.
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:35 PM   #15
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Well I finally resubmitted it this morning and it made it through.
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As did my other shot taken from above Keenbrook in Cajon Pass, it was rejected the first time for bad cropping.
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Nice shots! Was the first one taken by the road to Walnut Canyon?
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It was south of Santa Fe Rd, west of Cosnino just to the east of Flagstaff.
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Well I finally resubmitted it this morning and it made it through.
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Thanks for the comments and support everyone!
Originally a Screener's reject, now on my People's Choice list.
Great job!

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BTW - I just had a visual of what your face must of looked like when you saw it in the rejection list the first time - that would've been pretty entertaining via Webcast!

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