Old 12-07-2009, 12:14 PM   #51
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No need to be concerned. I don't judge photos based on the content but rather the image as a whole. Believe me, I am sick of seeing boring photos of NS and BNSF Dash9s but would not reject a photo simply because one is leading the train if everything else stands up to the guidelines. The same is true for any UK (or foreign) photograph I screen. In fact, here is one of the last SCs I gave out:
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To me, the locomotive looks exactly like those in the UK (and I know I'm very wrong) but I liked the photo as a whole. What I don't understand is what is meant by "stellar composition". I judge all photos based on composition so there is no difference in my definition of "stellar" whether the image was taken in the US or the UK.

Here is another example to prove that I am not bias of North American diesels(OR electrics)/photos:
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Outstanding shot that deserved more than just an acceptance despite the less than attractive locomotives. (I do like the red/yellow scheme though!)

Is it time to break railpictures.net into two websites? One for north american railroads and one for international stuff.
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:04 PM   #52
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Is it time to break railpictures.net into two websites? One for north american railroads and one for international stuff.
No, I don't think so; that is one of the great things about this site, being able to view good quality pictures from all over the world.

Anyway, another candidate from Europe for "the ugliest loco"

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Their nickname is "goggles"

In a similar vein from Belgium, a "snorkel" unit
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and from Sweden, the "Elephant's Ass", seem to remember this one cropped up in a thread on here many moons ago
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:54 PM   #53
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No, I don't think so; that is one of the great things about this site, being able to view good quality pictures from all over the world.
Yeah if you don't like something don't look and if you want to its there.
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I find most foreign locomotives to be unattractive, except for some of those Australian ALCO cab units. Most look like nondescript boxes or tubes on wheels, yet if you look objectively at a GP9 or a U30C, one could argue that they are no better. Familiarity would seem to have a way of allowing us to, in some unconscious way, overlook just how ugly most diesels (and electrics) are with exceptions of course. MILW's little Joes, GM and ALCO cab units are very attractive, and are the exceptions, rather than the rule (IMO).

Though we may disagree on much that has been said in this thread, we might all agree that the BL2 is the ugliest GM production diesel!
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though we may disagree on much that has been said in this thread, we might all agree that the bl2 is the ugliest gm production diesel!
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I find most foreign locomotives to be unattractive, except for some of those Australian ALCO cab units. Most look like nondescript boxes or tubes on wheels, yet if you look objectively at a GP9 or a U30C, one could argue that they are no better. Familiarity would seem to have a way of allowing us to, in some unconscious way, overlook just how ugly most diesels (and electrics) are with exceptions of course. MILW's little Joes, GM and ALCO cab units are very attractive, and are the exceptions, rather than the rule (IMO).

Though we may disagree on much that has been said in this thread, we might all agree that the BL2 is the ugliest GM production diesel!
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Though we may disagree on much that has been said in this thread, we might all agree that the BL2 is the ugliest GM production diesel!
Agreed, also agree on Alco cab units.
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Agreed, also agree on Alco cab units.
Not the Alco PA. That's a classic.

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[quote=lock4244;104714]I find most foreign locomotives to be unattractive, except for some of those Australian ALCO cab units.

Mike said some of our ALCO cab units are ok i agree with him.

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I find most foreign locomotives to be unattractive....
How about the one on the left in this picture

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Though you would recognise the sounds emitted by both of them.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and sorry, but the one on the left does not look too attractive to me. However, they also say that beauty is only skin deep, and since a GM 567 beats under the skin, then they are beautiful in at least one way (for those trusted to maintain them).

For the record, I said I think all GM and ALCO cab units are attractive and I meant North American production, so the PA is most certainly included in that. Those Australian ALCO cabs are always an international favorite of mine; I had a pair of them (or something similar) in N scale as a kid... painted for CN, so total foobs, but they looked nice.
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For the record, I said I think all GM and ALCO cab units are attractive and I meant North American production, so the PA is most certainly included in that. Those Australian ALCO cabs are always an international favorite of mine; I had a pair of them (or something similar) in N scale as a kid... painted for CN, so total foobs, but they looked nice.
In pondering this tread I have just learned the difference between cab units and cowl units. Thanks!

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lock4244, I am slightly surprised that you are not too keen on the Slovenian 664 - to my mind they look very American and not too dissimilar to your avatar, perhaps it is the angle or the fact that it has buffers?

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The same class of loco, but a slightly different angle, does that "improve" matters?
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lock4244, I am slightly surprised that you are not too keen on the Slovenian 664 - to my mind they look very American and not too dissimilar to your avatar, perhaps it is the angle or the fact that it has buffers?

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The same class of loco, but a slightly different angle, does that "improve" matters?
Janet, it does not look very American to me other than the configuration as a hood unit. It may have the same lines as what I'm used to, but it isn't very close IMO.

My avatar sounds better... there's a 251 beating under that art-like body
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Ah! a 251 (251C3-12 actually), now you are talking. Even the livery is similar

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Also built in Canada with a 251E-16 engine and another candidate for "ugliest loco" though they sound good enough to forgive the looks IMO.

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Just saw this and was reminded of yet another candidate for ugliest loco. The F40PH is no beauty to begin with, but this rebuild certainly doesn't improve matters!!!

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Jon, those are not rebuilds, they were built that way. It was a late version of the F40.
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Glad that I can't find my photos in that post
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perhaps it is the angle or the fact that it has buffers?
Buffers are hard to get past, Just looks like a bad idea that lasted to long. And i know two brothers that are fans and nether would go watch the MILW 261 run thru their home town, Wasn't a diesel!
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Jon, those are not rebuilds, they were built that way. It was a late version of the F40.
Gack!!! That's even worse! Whoever came up with that late redesign ought to be chained to the business end of a snowplow running over Donner in the winter . . .

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Jon, those are not rebuilds, they were built that way. It was a late version of the F40.
Improved visibility is the reason for the re-design, though one wonders of what? Better view of grade crossing accidents?
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Let me participate with a narrow gauge "beauty", for me this is the leader of the list.

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I nominate this as being ugly, GTA foamers call it the Willowbrook Dildo, railroaders say the same including myself.

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The upside to these things is the acceleration from a station stop, speed, the space shuttle look from inside the cab and the signature turbo whine when in notch 8. The downside is the 4 window viewing configuration, desktop controls and the ability of trying to get in and out of the cab.
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This one looks like bender from futurama.

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Here's a front view of another Pickens rebuild, which Ant used to start this post --

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