Old 10-08-2008, 07:24 PM   #1
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I am not complaining about the reject, I knew it probably was not RP material, but I wanted to know what some thought of it, and how I could make a shot like it possibly RP material. Here it is:




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Old 10-08-2008, 07:29 PM   #2
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Hee's Baaack!

Hmm I see what you are going for in this shot but I think it is the wrong kind of fence for this kind of shot. I am not really sure how you could improve it.
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Hmm I see what you are going for in this shot but I think it is the wrong kind of fence for this kind of shot. I am not really sure how you could improve it.


What kind of fence might be good? This was the only fence around. Might it be better if instead of the train blurred, the train was in focus, and the fence blurred?
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Not sure if this is a good example or not, but here is one with a fence and locomotive.
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One thing I try to do when shooting these types of shots -- or those mirror reflection shots -- is to keep the frame, in this case the predominant "ring" of fence, as Rule of Thirds. Put the train down further and maybe a little further to the left. Also, get the whole ring of the fence in, so to speak, by making the fence connect at the bottom. I think the idea is fine, though I'm not sure a screener would agree. I may have focused in on the left side of the shot on the fence.

By all means, though, try different things. Next time, put the train in focus and blur the fence. Find new and interesting things to put in the foreground. When I took this shot,

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I did not know whether it would work either artistically or RP-wise. But I got it back home and liked it and a few months later when I tried to upload it, it was actually accepted.


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Not sure if this is a good example or not, but here is one with a fence and locomotive.
I thought about this shot two days ago, Tom, when shooting the L&C. There's a white picket fence trackside and I thought about trying this type of deal and yours came to mind. I decided against it because if it didn't work out, I would miss a spot down th line that I knew would work out.

But I did put it in the "to do" list.


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One thing I try to do when shooting these types of shots -- or those mirror reflection shots -- is to keep the frame, in this case the predominant "ring" of fence, as Rule of Thirds. Put the train down further and maybe a little further to the left. Also, get the whole ring of the fence in, so to speak, by making the fence connect at the bottom. I think the idea is fine, though I'm not sure a screener would agree. I may have focused in on the left side of the shot on the fence.

By all means, though, try different things. Next time, put the train in focus and blur the fence. Find new and interesting things to put in the foreground. When I took this shot,

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I did not know whether it would work either artistically or RP-wise. But I got it back home and liked it and a few months later when I tried to upload it, it was actually accepted.


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Whenever I try to get artsy, it is always rejected.

I do not like to shoot brainless wedgies, just not my style. If you check my Flickr stuff out, I love artsy black and white. .


Tom, I love your example, but I was kind of aiming for something close up- in other words, a macro shot.

So, another question, is there a certain 'limit' to artsy, for rp? I would love to boost my photo count!
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Sometimes learning to get the wedgies down correctly will help you grow as a photographer. By all means am i saying don't try artistic stuff. Start with the basics and expand from there.

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Because the fence is dull, I think the engine should be in focus (not reverse).

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You have great texture in your B&W images.

For your shot, a chain link fence to me brings up thoughts of an urban environment. Just like the wooden fence in the above post is surrounded by a rural scene, I think your fence could benefit from some context. Maybe find a place where there is graffiti, people, cars parked, etc... set the fence and the train in a broader scene. That's my 2 cents anyway.
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You have great texture in your B&W images.

For your shot, a chain link fence to me brings up thoughts of an urban environment. Just like the wooden fence in the above post is surrounded by a rural scene, I think your fence could benefit from some context. Maybe find a place where there is graffiti, people, cars parked, etc... set the fence and the train in a broader scene. That's my 2 cents anyway.
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You have great texture in your B&W images.

For your shot, a chain link fence to me brings up thoughts of an urban environment. Just like the wooden fence in the above post is surrounded by a rural scene, I think your fence could benefit from some context. Maybe find a place where there is graffiti, people, cars parked, etc... set the fence and the train in a broader scene. That's my 2 cents anyway.

Anyone interested in seeing an ugly, white beverage warehouse?


Next time I am in Kingston I will certainly try to scout out a more urban fence. I know this Saturday I will be in New York City, but I might be able get some railfanning time in before that.

Oh, yeah, thanks for the compliment!
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Old 10-09-2008, 01:39 PM   #13
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Since the train isn't going to be in focus if the fence is, why not consider using a lower shutter speed (which will also give you greater depth of field) and letting the train blur, showing the motion? May want to give it several tries, using different shutter speeds.

In any case, good luck, and don't be afraid to experiment!

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Since the train isn't going to be in focus if the fence is, why not consider using a lower shutter speed (which will also give you greater depth of field) and letting the train blur, showing the motion? May want to give it several tries, using different shutter speeds.

In any case, good luck, and don't be afraid to experiment!

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Thanks for the help, but I can't set the shutter speed- I use a point and shoot!
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Thanks for the help, but I can't set the shutter speed- I use a point and shoot!
Assuming you're using the A560 (per the EXIF in one of your shots), you can set the shutter speed - that's what manual mode is. Take a look at the documents that came with your camera to figure it out... you should be able to set shutter speed, sensativity/iso, and aperture/f-stop.
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Assuming you're using the A560 (per the EXIF in one of your shots), you can set the shutter speed - that's what manual mode is. Take a look at the documents that came with your camera to figure it out... you should be able to set shutter speed, sensativity/iso, and aperture/f-stop.

Well the only thing I know how to do / can find is setting the ISO. Anyone know how to change aperture and shutter speed w/ Canon Powershot A560?
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Well the only thing I know how to do / can find is setting the ISO. Anyone know how to change aperture and shutter speed w/ Canon Powershot A560?
I apologize, the camera does have a "manual mode," but the info I see confirms what you're saying - no aperture or shutter controls... yikes.

That's going to limit you quite a bit, I fear. You better get very comfortable with the preset modes, or try trading it in for a camera that has genuine manual controls.
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I apologize, the camera does have a "manual mode," but the info I see confirms what you're saying - no aperture or shutter controls... yikes.

That's going to limit you quite a bit, I fear. You better get very comfortable with the preset modes, or try trading it in for a camera that has genuine manual controls.

Wow, when I read your post about the A560 having manual controls, I jumped for joy!

Spending time trying to find those controls... well at least it passed time

Any cheap Point and shoots have these types of controls?
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Does anybody know if this camera has manual aperture and shutter?
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Does anybody know if this camera has manual aperture and shutter?
Do some research on your own - check out the manual for that camera, or check out one of the numerous camera review pages - just Google "Camera Model Number Review" and you should find all you need to know.
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Well, folks, I will be getting a new camera soon
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Get a D80.
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Get a D80.

That'd be too easy Wayne...

The new Kodak Z715 IS looks good if you want a SLR-like... Very versitile. I have one model down and I like it. 35-432mm optical zoom, and plenty of shutter speed options.
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Blah after owning a DSLR, I would never go back to Point and Shoot's.
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Well, Wayne, I am only 12 so I obviously cannot yet afford a DSLR!!


Steven- I think you know I am a Canon Person
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