Old 01-29-2015, 02:09 AM   #26
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However... there are times when I look at the preview and my first thought is "Damn, I nuked the reflection", yet think about it - "in real life", as seen with ones own eyes, the scene itself - "in real life" is in fact blown out! I mean, who here ever wondered why you can't see solar flares on the Sun while looking at shot with the setting Sun?
True.

But.

Every scene can be captured accurately, including blown out reflection scenes. Doesn't mean every scene should be captured. I'm not seeing this one as a good shot if one is going to treat the reflection as is.

There is a big reason why, when I look at the mirror every morning, I don't think "oooh - self-portrait!!!" Don't need to capture that scene.

My tastes only. (For all I know, someone would LOVE a J-mirror shot!)
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:27 PM   #27
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I can say the photo is one I would have been very happy to take. I have appealed some nose rejection photos and succeeded but they were NO where near this type of image. It seems the nose must either be even lit with the rest of the train or completely dark where at some point it goes from being "bad" to being "good". The major problem I can see that there are lots of very good or at least more interesting images that people do not even try to post or are just rejected and lesser ones are accepted simply because they meet certain standards.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:37 AM   #28
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this one made it in and you can see the difference toning down the light on the locomotives made. It still has that bright shiny vibe but not blown out.

Also proves that the nose on the light objection was not an insuperable problem if it was the problem at all.

interesting crop of this one, seems to work and suggests that it's always a matter of giving something up to gain something

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Old 02-02-2015, 03:17 PM   #29
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Well... It took no less than 5 (!) rejections before the picture made it to the RP.net database. I am resilient. But it tells a lot about pretty acceptable pictures from not so resilient photographers, that we will never see on RPN. Also, the difference between versions is not so strking. Is it worth the time spent?
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Old 02-02-2015, 03:38 PM   #30
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Not a fan of the cut-off bridge support.
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:14 PM   #31
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Not a fan of the cut-off bridge support.
I agree with you.

This is a result of the screener's demand. I had to crop the picture despite not liking it.

Again: it is a matter of taste versus rigid rules. The picture was OK with the initial cropping.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:52 PM   #32
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Not a fan of the cut-off bridge support.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who believes if you shoot a bridge, you should include the ground / water under it too.

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Old 02-02-2015, 10:58 PM   #33
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who believes if you shoot a bridge, you should include the ground / water under it too.

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At this location, you can't see the ground below, because it is too deep. And there is also this impressive cliff behind, that one wants to include in the picture. Not an easy choice. Wide angle might perhaps be an option.
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:08 AM   #34
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Did this get a backlit rejection at first? Great photo, good example of your ideas on backlighting and blownout highlights.
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To my surprise, it was not rejected, either for backlit or for "too dark"
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who believes if you shoot a bridge, you should include the ground / water under it too.

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I meant on the right side, not at the bottom. In his rejection, the whole bridge support is there. In the accepted shot, he cut off part of it on the right side.
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I meant on the right side, not at the bottom. In his rejection, the whole bridge support is there. In the accepted shot, he cut off part of it on the right side.
Yeah, but getting the photo on is the most important thing.

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Yeah, but getting the photo on is the most important thing.

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So the inclusion of this would have kept it from getting on?

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So the inclusion of this would have kept it from getting on?

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Apparently, according to the screeners, yes indeed !
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Good thing the screeners let some toolshed named Darrell post on the picture. What a dick.
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To my surprise, it was not rejected, either for backlit or for "too dark"
looks perfectly exposed for the subject.

What were the five rejection reasons for the train on bridge photo?
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looks perfectly exposed for the subject.

What were the five rejection reasons for the train on bridge photo?
1st rejection:
- Horizon Unlevel (Leaning Right): The horizon of the image is leaning to the right, and needs to be corrected with counterclockwise rotation. A level horizon, in most cases, should be ascertained by ensuring that an object which is known to be vertical, such as a structure, nearest to the center of the frame aligns with the grid lines in your photo editor.
- Backlit (Nose): The nose of the lead unit is too dark due to backlighting.

2nd rejection:
- Backlit (Nose): The nose of the lead unit is too dark due to backlighting.

3rd rejection:
- Overexposed: The image is overexposed (too bright). This occurs when too much light is exposed to the camera sensor/film when the image was captured.

4th rejection:
- Composition (Balance): The subject is awkwardly positioned in the frame. RailPictures.Net prefers that images are composed in keeping with the 'Rule of Thirds' meaning that, in most circumstances, the focal point of the image should not be directly in the center of the frame, or too close to any of the edges.

5th rejection:
- Color (Hue): The hue (color cast) of the photo is poor; i.e. there is too much of a certain color throughout the image. Please see the screener comments field for suggestions on how this may be fixed.
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1st rejection:
- Horizon Unlevel (Leaning Right): The horizon of the image is leaning to the right, and needs to be corrected with counterclockwise rotation. A level horizon, in most cases, should be ascertained by ensuring that an object which is known to be vertical, such as a structure, nearest to the center of the frame aligns with the grid lines in your photo editor.
- Backlit (Nose): The nose of the lead unit is too dark due to backlighting.

2nd rejection:
- Backlit (Nose): The nose of the lead unit is too dark due to backlighting.

3rd rejection:
- Overexposed: The image is overexposed (too bright). This occurs when too much light is exposed to the camera sensor/film when the image was captured.

4th rejection:
- Composition (Balance): The subject is awkwardly positioned in the frame. RailPictures.Net prefers that images are composed in keeping with the 'Rule of Thirds' meaning that, in most circumstances, the focal point of the image should not be directly in the center of the frame, or too close to any of the edges.

5th rejection:
- Color (Hue): The hue (color cast) of the photo is poor; i.e. there is too much of a certain color throughout the image. Please see the screener comments field for suggestions on how this may be fixed.
Don't worry, Jean-Marc - I'm sure, in time, you'll have this photography thing figured out! Lol.

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The hardest thing is to care less about the opinions of 4 people on one website.

Master that, and photography is much easier, and enjoyable.

I promise I'll submit a photo soon Mitch.. promise

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The hardest thing is to care less about the opinions of 4 people on one website.

Master that, and photography is much easier, and enjoyable.

I promise I'll submit a photo soon Mitch.. promise

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Loyd, it's not what 4 people on one website think of your photography, rather, what a captive audience thinks about your portfolio without having the opportunity to see it in whole and unaltered. I imagine this is only an issue to those that put a substantial part of their collection on RP, vs those, like yourself, who only throw on a handful a year.

Look forward to your submissions, as I have yet to find the time to visit EVERYONE's individual web or FLICKR page with regularity.

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This rejection is spot on just sharing.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...27&key=4328650
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This rejection is spot on just sharing.

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Never saw so many back lit noses in one photo.

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Never saw so many back lit noses in one photo.

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Never crossed my mind about the other noses LOL.
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Look forward to your submissions, as I have yet to find the time to visit EVERYONE's individual web or FLICKR page with regularity.
You don't need to. Just click on People and select Photos from. Then you'll see pages and pages (depending on how many people you're following) of the most recent uploads from people.
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What the hell...this is backlit and should have been rejected!!

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