Old 08-12-2012, 10:23 PM   #1
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yea or nay? The engine is not the main focus in the image only an contributing element. And yes...I am well aware you can't see the trucks... I expect this image to do well in other venues but curious if it was appropriate for my RP portfolio.
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That's an interesting photo. Great composition, mood using the lighting you had. Nice human interest overall. I am not sure it's tough with the screeners.
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That's an interesting photo. Great composition, mood using the lighting you had. Nice human interest overall. I am not sure it's tough with the screeners.
Submitted it and left the decision to the screener. I love the picture. Pleased with how it turned out. The train wasn't part of the original plan but they ran by and I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity to include them.

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Maybe on Hobos.com.
Thats funny... I posted in their forum and they said "Nope. Maybe on Railpictures.net".
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Not a fan. Putting aside the obscured train from an RP point of view, that also doesn't work well for me from a non-RP point of view. The foreground, I have little idea what it is, the shot needs less of it, or more.

The musician is smiling. Now, smiling is a good thing! But, one doesn't really see musicians smiling that much while they are playing, and not when there is no apparent audience. So the smile looks a bit out of place, therefore posed. Not a fan of posed, my personal preference.

So overall the shot seems out of kilter, a mix of compositional elements that just doesn't quite work.
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Sorry. Does not work for me. Nothing seems to relate to anything else. I do not know what I am supposed to "see" on any level. And not just RP level.

The blah light is the worst thing here. Better light with better train or no train at all would give this a chance to work. The rusty thing in the foreground does not help. Better hair, better costume and a serious look would help the person.

That said, I do see what you are trying to do and I say keep going. You will get it.
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I really like the photograph as a photograph. It's interesting in terms of subject matter, angle, lighting and composition. (I'm not a huge fan of the clutter at the bottom of the picture, but I can deal with it.) However, as aRP shot, I'm guesing you're either abot to get a PEQ.... or you already have got it by now.

And, yes, it's mostly the trucks.
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The musician is smiling. Now, smiling is a good thing! But, one doesn't really see musicians smiling that much while they are playing, and not when there is no apparent audience. So the smile looks a bit out of place, therefore posed. Not a fan of posed, my personal preference.
You're assuming she's strumming the blues. In that case, I agree, as I haven't seen too many blues musicians smiling. However, she could be playing some happy music, which in that case, regardless of being alone, she may have a reason to smile.
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Sorry. Does not work for me. Nothing seems to relate to anything else. I do not know what I am supposed to "see" on any level. And not just RP level.

The blah light is the worst thing here. Better light with better train or no train at all would give this a chance to work. The rusty thing in the foreground does not help. Better hair, better costume and a serious look would help the person.
I'm with you, Dennis. I'm just seeing a miscellaneous assortment of props that are lacking a connection. The lighting is questionable on the person as well. I think some off camera flash(es) would have been benefical to the scene.

I would think this would be a no go for RP.

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It looks like she's playing a mandolin. And some mandolin players like to smile when strummin':



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It looks like she's playing a mandolin. And some mandolin players like to smile when strummin':



+1 for Sierra Hull photo.

I think the smiling issue would be lessen by having her smiling in a 'happier' surrounding with 'happier' lighting.. Just kind of out of place to me.

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Lots of performers smile when they are performing in front of an audience, not so much when they are out by themselves on abandoned property. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it isn't typical, in my book. So it looks off, to me!
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Lots of performers smile when they are performing in front of an audience, not so much when they are out by themselves on abandoned property. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it isn't typical, in my book. So it looks off, to me!
Maybe she was high?
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.............Thats funny... I posted in their forum and they said "Nope. Maybe on Railpictures.net".
LOL!

I was poking fun at someone else.

I like the photo as a hobo shot, but RP won't post it without a better view of the train.

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I'd never heard of this bird until I did a google image search for "mandolin players." She was the best looking player I found, hence the usage of the photo.
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I'd never heard of this bird until I did a google image search for "mandolin players." She was the best looking player I found, hence the usage of the photo.
You've come a long way in your treatment of the forum since those horrible red eyes on your animal avatar image.
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As I am sure you have already guessed they said negative. No surprise but it was worth a shot. That is my, taller than me, "little" sister with her mandolin. She also plays guitar, piano, and banjo. We were doing some shots for display when she plays on passenger excursions. It is tough to get a good smile out of her and this is actually a smile of embarrassment due to the crowd of passengers were taking our picture as the train was backing through the shot. Yup, I said backing. My photoshop skills must have been okay cause the sky is a massive repair and the smoke out of the engine is fake. haha. If you can see in the small shot, the engineer is facing the long hood end...starring at us.. haha. Like I said this shot was basically a grab shot. We were shooting inside the sand tower when we heard the caboose blow for a crossing. So we scrambled outside and got set up asap. The lighting was rough but workable. I'm happy. Its already hanging in my moms house and I will be ordering a canvass print here shortly.



Here is another from the shoot. This is an old Southern MOW boxcar. Oh my, can't see the trucks...haha!

Anyhoo, thanks for the input!
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Her happiness in the other scene did not work with the unattractive surroundings.

I like the the boxcar shot much better. Now we have something to look at. The soft light bathing the scene is excellent for the color. I like the rust color and rough metal texture contrasting with the green grass and her skin. Her soulful look is far more appropriate for these surroundings.

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Yup, I said backing. My photoshop skills must have been okay cause the sky is a massive repair and the smoke out of the engine is fake. haha.

Anyhoo, thanks for the input!

"HA HA"??....You admit to faking smoke and digitally manipulating a photo and find it funny that you pulled this off?...
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I guess they are fine as portraits but I think they are pretty abysmal from a railfan standpoint.
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"HA HA"??....You admit to faking smoke and digitally manipulating a photo and find it funny that you pulled this off?...
I believe that is what "haha" means . My photoshop skills are nothing special. So yes, I find it funny no one picked up on it. Kinda impressed actually. There has been more than a few digitally "mastered" images on this site. I recall one was a screener's choice and it was quite popular. They are not a bad thing. As my amazing grandfather always says when he watches me, "we use to do that in the dark room".

This was a big reason I chose to post here before submitting. When I submitted I made sure to leave a note for the screener. I can just about guarantee the screener that vetoed it saw a previous version on my facebook. I was not trying to pull anything off...

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Her happiness in the other scene did not work with the unattractive surroundings.

I like the the boxcar shot much better. Now we have something to look at. The soft light bathing the scene is excellent for the color. I like the rust color and rough metal texture contrasting with the green grass and her skin. Her soulful look is far more appropriate for these surroundings.

Here is a suggestion of a crop.

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Thank you Dennis. That is precisely the crop I used when I printed the 8x10s for my mom.

Thanks again
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Thank you Dennis. That is precisely the crop I used when I printed the 8x10s for my mom.

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