Old 09-27-2008, 05:15 PM   #1
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Default Composition is a subjective thing..

I don't mind that this was rejected..after all, composition (that's why it was rejected) is a subjective thing. And, I don't intend to change it.

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I like it..what say you?


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Old 09-27-2008, 05:37 PM   #2
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Like it. I love still water train reflection shots, really do. Need a little more train, little less green on the left. You should try this again and the bridge be the focal point.

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Old 09-28-2008, 01:45 AM   #3
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All the room on the left would be ok if the train was visible there.

Try more of a tele shot to compose the train, bridge and reflection.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:59 AM   #4
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I like it but some one didn't so you will have to have a good argument or change it
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I was the screener who rejected that photo. I feel that it would be an outstanding shot of the train was more strung out across the bridge, completing the scene. As it is, in my eyes, there's a whole lot of beautiful bridge in a pristine location that's totally wasted due to the lack of train.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:37 AM   #6
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This would probably stand as just a photograph then, rather than a railroad photo. Composition is subjective, cause you don't always know the point the photographer is trying to make.
I like it because it shows how the giant green of my beloved Appalachains can gobble up a 10,000 ton coal train. The two locomotives you can see help accent the scene, when you consider they are each 85 feet long, and over 200 tons each!
Size matters here too. I'm hoping that some day I can afford to make a large print of this one. That's where most likely that this photo would do better.

This is not the only shot made here that day. I've one I'll submit that better fits the RailPictures theme.
I enjoy RailPictures. The quality of the photos that are selected by the screeners are always very good, and I swear, get better as the months fly away.

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Old 09-28-2008, 01:43 PM   #7
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I find the shot out of balance. Yes, the power is at a rule of thirds point, but the bridge shifts the balance further to the right and I don't care for that.

I see your logic, and it is cool to know what a photographer was thinking. The shot is balanced for you because you "see" the train in the tunnel. Nice.
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This would probably stand as just a photograph then, rather than a railroad photo. Composition is subjective, cause you don't always know the point the photographer is trying to make.
I like it because it shows how the giant green of my beloved Appalachains can gobble up a 10,000 ton coal train. The two locomotives you can see help accent the scene, when you consider they are each 85 feet long, and over 200 tons each!
So show us more of the train. You DID shoot more frames as the train crossed the bridge, right? I agree 100% with CK. Their needs to be more train.
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There ya go Ed! Good job!

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Old 09-29-2008, 09:11 AM   #10
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It's sad this shot will be out of the database soon, so I had to save it to keep it. I really love it!
I don't try to consider it a pure railway photo with a scenery, I see the stunning loneliness of that train in the homogenous line of trees and the water that appears like a deep well of thought and coldness to me. I think a shot showing more of the train would ruin this sensation.
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I think the lack of train on the bridge creates a really cool illusion - in the reflection it looks like the train is running from right to left, while on top you can see it's moving left to right.

Both shots are pretty spiffy.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:16 PM   #12
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Here's another you might like if you thought the other two were ok.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=581799&key=0

Which, do ya think, is the best of the three?

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Old 10-01-2008, 01:29 PM   #13
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The one that got accepted by far...
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The one that got accepted by far...

Yeah Ed, I agree. If there were some houses or some lake houses, cabins, something up on that hill or randomly littering the face of the hill I think it could be pulled off. There's just too much of green nothing. I know the idea that you're after Ed and I love the idea too, but RP isn't going too. Keep it in the personal Ed, make prints, they all are good shots! Good luck man!

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Old 10-01-2008, 06:35 PM   #15
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I'm late to the party, but my $0.02. I love the shot, but agree with the rejection, and with reason Chris (screener) gave, more of the train needs to be strung across the bridge. But great shot, great location; western scenery on an eastern line. The unbalanced look works for this shot, and I think it'd be interesting with or without the train.
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