Old 10-15-2016, 01:41 AM   #1
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Rejected for composition (balance). Is it too vertiacally centered? I know the lighting is a little past being ideal (sun was just setting) but I felt it wasn't the worst light either and still might have a good shot. Any help appreciated. Thanks

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Old 10-15-2016, 12:14 PM   #2
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The train is pretty centered in the frame vertically, but even if you fix that, the lighting is pretty tough. Lots of glare on the front and the sides are dark and there is a dark shadow on the first few cars, and then there is the dark stack of ties (or whatever that is) in the bottom left corner. You could help the lighting a great deal in Lightroom by boosting the shadows, and you could reduce the glare some on the nose, but overall it would probably still be a tough sell.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:17 PM   #3
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Centered shots get accepted every day. Totally arbitrary.
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Old 10-15-2016, 08:03 PM   #4
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Hi Joseph,

just for the fun of it, take a piece of paper and draw your picture on it.
You don't need to draw the entire train, just outline where the engines are approximately in the frame.

Now select all pictures that were added in the last few days and place your piece of paper on the screen (so you can see the pictures that were added AND where the train was placed on your picture).
You will see that dozens and dozens of pictures were accepted to RPN that have the exact some composition...

It is indeed completely arbitrary so don't feel too bad if you get an "awkward composition".

What I don't like about your picture though are the buildings that are visible behind the engines (it looks like they are growing out of the engines).
The lighting also isn't very appealing - so if you do resubmit, it may get rejected again.

Than again, with the screeners you never know what will happen.

My favourite is this picture:

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/588991/

First rejection - too grainy

Second rejection - too much sharpness

Third rejection - awkward composition

Fourth rejection - too close to the edge..

The fifth time, it was finally accepted, that version was only very very slightly different than the first one....

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Old 10-16-2016, 02:23 AM   #5
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I have had the glare issue on a lot of shots since I only get out mostly in the evening after work. Is this something that can be "fixed" in post processing and if so, how? Thanks.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:04 AM   #6
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Any advice on how to crop this differently? More off the right maybe?

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I have had the glare issue on a lot of shots since I only get out mostly in the evening after work. Is this something that can be "fixed" in post processing and if so, how? Thanks.


I routinely use a polarizer for daytime shots.


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I routinely use a polarizer for daytime shots.
Certainly a matter of taste. I never really liked the unnatural look.
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Certainly a matter of taste. I never really liked the unnatural look.

The latest B+W Kasseman polarizer (-1.5 light stop) is very natural, and very neutral. It's worth the bucks. I have both a 77mm and a 67mm now.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...kaesemann.html


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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the low contrast of the image. Selectively drop the highlights as much as you can in the areas that are almost blown out and then boost the white levels. Selectively lighten the shadows in the foreground as well. I'm pretty confident that you could get this accepted with some clever editing.
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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the low contrast of the image. Selectively drop the highlights as much as you can in the areas that are almost blown out and then boost the white levels. Selectively lighten the shadows in the foreground as well. I'm pretty confident that you could get this accepted with some clever editing.
I will give this a try tonight. Still not sure how else I should crop it though. I have room and top and bottom and some on the right as well to work with.
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