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And no, I didn't get the shot. I had to leave after an hour due to a family commitment (I was froze anyway).

Thank God for weather-sealing...
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Nice. Which body are you using?

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Your not as hard core as the guy in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHBJCKQti9w
He stood on the tracks as the Challenger was coming right at him. You would think with all of the UP guys around that he would have been talked to.
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The photos from this day of chasing were probably worth it, even if we did think we were going to spend the night in a laundromat, waiting for a tow truck.

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You gotta love the comment the instant before that happened, John.
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The photos from this day of chasing were probably worth it, even if we did think we were going to spend the night in a laundromat, waiting for a tow truck.
Hey it got me a PCA, id say it was worth it!
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Okay, make a sandwich or something, grab a glass of tea or Hennessy or whatever you drink, this is a bit long but worth the read

Not my craziest but definitely ranks high up there.

I live near A. B was my destination.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...y_style/ab.jpg

So I loaded up the car and headed north. The subject was the morning train, a double-header container intermodal out of Miami, comes through here every morning around 8:30am. I left around 9, behind the train but it has to slow down through Titusville about halfway up to my destination. Track speed is max 55mph sometimes 60, and I-95 is usually 75mph, so the theory was I would get there before it did and not have to wait forever in the sun. The direction of the sunlight is what made me make the drive and you will see why in a minute here.



This is the location in question, a railroad bridge in remote Merritt Island Wildlife Refuge. Track speed is 55mph through here, and there are no grade crossings for miles so walking through here with Ipod blazing isn't wise. (I refuse to own one for this reason) Here is what happened.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...gy_style/2.jpg

I missed one detail, at the lower left where my car is parked (maroon rectangle) there is a canal. Not sure of depth and didn't want to find out judging from seeing these fvckers, show nearly lifesize. I'm not scared of spiders but this one here creeped me out, especially walking under it twice

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...e/holycrap.jpg

so I went with Plan B, to enter through the refuge. The plan was originally park here walk over the bridge into the fish camp. Now I have to drive to the refuge and walk, okay not too bad. The light, as shown, hits the bridge at a near perfect 90* angle, illuminating the side of the locomotives (FEC and their direction) and a small portion of the front, making for some good lighting. Nowhere else in the county (or for about 200 miles both ways) can I seize this kind of opportunity. Here is where it gets fun.



Yellow was the original route. Red was Plan B, which I made the mistake of going 40 through instead of the 15mph sign I saw after I went airborne over a bridge. Good sign placement job, Merritt Island Wildlife Refuge. You rock, literally. Rallyprobe ftl

That didn't work, until I got to the end and saw the railroad and the fish camp and knew where I was. I headed a bit north to the fish camp, the county hadn't opened the gates yet so I couldn't drive there. With no aerial view of the road, I wasn't taking any chances, so I went with the dreaded Plan C, walk the entire length of the railroad trackside through the refuge (borders it on the east part) to the bridge. It's about 1 3/4 miles one way. In the Florida 85*F sun, carrying my Digital Rebel, and a Minolta Maxxum 4 35mm, two bags one with some liquid refreshment the other with lenses, video camera and a tripod. I come ****ing prepared.

By now it is 10:30 and this train should have already rolled through here. After Titusville it's 60mph of straight nothing alongside the river and the engineers drop the hammer on those new SD70's, which are 4300HP a piece, two of them that's 8600HP. They're REALLY fast, a fully loaded 150-car train with two of those things pulling can get to 55mph from a standstill in a shade over a mile and I'm not joking.

So I walked the whole length of the railroad, signals in view. I got to the camp and the second I set my equipment down I heard the unmistakable sound of a Leslie RS3L horn. Talk about impeccable timing. 45 minutes of driving, half an hour of walking for about 3 minutes of shooting.

I grabbed both cameras, hastily setup the video camera, and made my way to the first green dot with the arrow.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...gy_style/4.jpg

A triple header, 3 locomotives, SD40, and two SD70M-2's = 11,000HP. I fired away, and got these. Not too bad, could have been better though. These are digital, I fired off some of the Elite Chrome as well and spent the roll.





The second green dot is where I should have shot, no trees to block the view and a better angle on the power.

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And no, I didn't get the shot. I had to leave after an hour due to a family commitment (I was froze anyway).

Thank God for weather-sealing...
I chalk up shots like this to photog machismo. "My camera is so tough it works even encrusted in snow!"

A single, simple clear plastic bag is cheap insurance that the camera will actually work when that train shows up. After all, the camera is water resistant, not waterproof.
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The FEC ran a special through here recently, with 4 passenger rail cars for the intermodal convention in Ft. Lauderdale, I did the same location, except I biked in on this beast



carrying ALL of this, and for those of you who think your DSLR's are big and heavy, until you have shot a Nikkormat and carried a bag of lenses for one, I don't want to hear anything about a "big clunky SLR" 2nd one from the right.



it all fits in here

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and the shot, I ran out of local memory right after this so missed a wide angle. oops



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Maybe a shortsleeve shirt or shorts would have helped...
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I haven't done anything too extreme for a picture.

I walked a half a mile for this shot:

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I had my boot sucked off when I stepped into 4 feet of mud getting this one.:

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Almost fell climbing to the top of a hill for this one. A fellow RP contributor was there to make sure I didn't fall.:

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Could barely see to drive when I got this one:

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And no, I didn't get the shot. I had to leave after an hour due to a family commitment (I was froze anyway).

Thank God for weather-sealing...
If the camera is bellow 32f and the snow dry no cover is needed, Looks like wet snow as it is sticking in that case I have a hanky and a rubber band to stop most of the snow. A cheep 1" paint brush works wonders at dusting snow off to, Just some of the odd things I carry over the years that come in handy.

If one wants a better but cheep cover an old water proof jacket cut at the arm making long snoot for the lens and cut the shoulder to fall over the camera if one wants to tinker?

A light colored one would work great in the hot sun to or a Camouflage one if one likes to hide from cops or wildlife.
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Wandering to far from a car is life threatening most days shooting plow trains besides one wants to get ahead for more shots too can't get to far from it. Probably, -5 and a wind chill in the -20's Here is Craig and I shooting a DME and CP power on the old ICE lines in Northern Western Iowa. Here is Craig down in the drift after the last shot showing how deep it is.
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Loyd Lowry and I sat on rocks in the middle of the New River for 5 hours during the heart of the summer. Sounds simple enough, but it was pitch black and we're miles and miles from civilization. We both got PCA's, so I can justify it now.

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Have also hiked up the side of the mountain with Loyd to get a good overview of the NRG.
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Thurmond-McKendry road, enough said...
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Loyd Lowry and I sat on rocks in the middle of the New River for 5 hours during the heart of the summer. Sounds simple enough, but it was pitch black and we're miles and miles from civilization. We both got PCA's, so I can justify it now.

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I figured the shot was going to be worth it, I was having doubts about 4 hours into it though.

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There aren't too many people who have been to this spot, or even know of it. Just take Chase and I's word that it's no stroll with the dogs to get up there.

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Maybe a shortsleeve shirt or shorts would have helped...
I thought about it, but it was a lot cooler when I left, I got there around 10:30 and spent a half hour walking in, it warmed up QUICK.

I decided to keep the long sleeves and jeans because of all of the woods I had to walk through.
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If the camera is bellow 32f and the snow dry no cover is needed, Looks like wet snow as it is sticking in that case I have a hanky and a rubber band to stop most of the snow. A cheep 1" paint brush works wonders at dusting snow off to, Just some of the odd things I carry over the years that come in handy.

If one wants a better but cheep cover an old water proof jacket cut at the arm making long snoot for the lens and cut the shoulder to fall over the camera if one wants to tinker?

A light colored one would work great in the hot sun to or a Camouflage one if one likes to hide from cops or wildlife.
I do have a Storm Jacket thingy I use on my long glass when shooting soccer:



But I should get one or carry a plastic bag for the shorter lenses. I like the idea of a small paintbrush, thanks for the tip. It was about 18F yesterday morning and the snow was dry, but it was sticking to the warm camera. The pic is right after a very heavy squall came in off the lake; 15 minutes earlier and you couldn't see even 1/3 of the way across the bridge.
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There aren't too many people who have been to this spot, or even know of it. Just take Chase and I's word that it's no stroll with the dogs to get up there
My last trip to the NRV cost me a new set of tires for my truck when I got back. I had to replace 3 over multiple occasions (thanks C Adam Toney tires in Oak Hill, WV) with used ones to allow me to limp through the rest of my trip. One time I was stuck at the bottom of the gorge and they had to send a tow truck to get me out, the driver loved that one... what an adventure. I maxxed out my AAA "free towing" allowance for the year on 1 trip, good thing it resets in March.
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There aren't too many people who have been to this spot, or even know of it. Just take Chase and I's word that it's no stroll with the dogs to get up there.
I can tell. It is a really great location, and no one ever has shots from there. In fact, I've almost never seen shots of the New River Bridge on RP.
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There aren't too many people who have been to this spot, or even know of it. Just take Chase and I's word that it's no stroll with the dogs to get up there.

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How often does CSX even run through this location?
I think it's safe to assume between 8-15 trains a day 24 hours + 1 amtrak each way 3 days a week. There is a main track on each side of the river here, and mostly Eastbounds use the track on the left side of that picture and Westbounds use the main on the right. It's like 65% coal, 30% grain, 5% mixed frieght (1 each way daily + locals) and 1% passenger
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