Old 07-27-2010, 11:04 AM   #1
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I went out for two rare locations with mainline steam yesterday, and the weather wasn't at it's finest (sun would have been all wrong for the first location anyhow). Both places hardly see steam charters, particularly the viaduct which also has the distinction of being the largest masonry viaduct in the entire UK at 1.16km and 82 arches (info here for the interested)

71000 tackling the 1 in 37 (2.7%) climb from Bromsgrove
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Just wondered if anyone thought it was worth trying to submit the shots, although I fear not.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:44 AM   #2
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The Viaduct shot I Like but needs cropping and WB work.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:03 PM   #3
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The Viaduct is very nice but I agree with Scott on the cropping. It will need some sharpening and color work as well. On the other shot I think you have too much sky. I would crop some of the sky and then try submitting.

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I like the first shot a lot, but it needs a little less sky, a little more under the train and maybe .5 degrees rotation CW. The viaduct shot to me needs to train further to the right. As is, it's centered on the bridge and in the shot. The lighting leaves a lot to be desired, too.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:22 PM   #5
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Actually, this is more what I had in mind --

http://www.trainpics.net/p66185280.html
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Yes, I like the further-along-the-viaduct shot as well. (with more post processing work)

The close-up shot is close enough; might get in as is for the sky does have interest.

Tighter crop? Little more saturation maybe?
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Getting away from the first for a moment, people have said the colours and WB in the second are the problem, so here for comparison are the original shot and the post processed one, so people can see what I'm working with and/or what I did wrong.

#2 - PP'd

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No one has mentioned this, so is it just me who thinks the light is poor and the haze strong?
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No one has mentioned this, so is it just me who thinks the light is poor and the haze strong?
I think that goes without saying... but I dont think that kills the shot.
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I think that goes without saying... but I dont think that kills the shot.
It does for me, tastes differ. If I were screening, based on what I know of RP, I would reject. For my own tastes I would also reject/put aside. I would be bummed about it, though!
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I think he did a good job processing the bridge shot as seen a couple posts above, but it's still drab and overly blue. Maybe a high contrast b&w would work?

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#2 - PP'd is much better.

I am by NO MEANS an expert but a couple of suggestions.

Biggest PP issue I see is the histogram. If the image has a correct exposure, color and contrast usually fall into line.

Example 1. I extended the histogram to the left and right, did an auto levels, increased saturation and sharpness.

Example 2. Same thing but more highlight, more saturation.

Light is the most important part of a photograph. The light here is rather dreary I'm afraid and thus lessening the chance of getting in.

Beautiful scene, I'd love to be there myself!
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Just to update the situation, i had a little play around with the two shots, inlcuding some saturation and cropping on shot #1, which got straight on.
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The second one got rejected for bad cropping, you can find the reject here : http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=769110438
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