Old 02-10-2009, 09:31 PM   #1
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I figured keeping the front half of the locomotive clear, along with the rather sparse treeline along the rest of the train would be fine. What say you RP community?

(And no, I'm not walking 4 miles up the track to cut down trees on National Park Service property.. )

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Old 02-10-2009, 10:50 PM   #2
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Very cool scene...too bad you can't do some tree trimming. I think this is one of those shots you just have to let go, while just dreaming of that entire river bank being completely cleared out.

You could always hire a black market, overnight tree trimming service.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:55 PM   #3
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When in doubt blur it and/or wait for sun. Using a longer shutter speed will blur the falls as well as the train which makes it more noticeable behind a tree line (IMO). Getting a sunny day will also give the scene more POP and may be pretty enough to get by despite its one flaw.

Absolutely LOVE the shot, BTW! So jealous.
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I'd accept it if it had better light and the falls weren't blown out.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:24 AM   #5
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Very cool scene...too bad you can't do some tree trimming. I think this is one of those shots you just have to let go, while just dreaming of that entire river bank being completely cleared out.

You could always hire a black market, overnight tree trimming service.
I say trim the trees, they will never hear the chain saw with the roar of the waterfall
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Photoshop all the trees out like Gary Knapp!
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Absent tree trimming, I think another possibility might be to frame the engine of a train in the position occupied by the third hopper back in this photo. I realize that changes the composition a bit, but you've still got the other elements to work with, and it looks like a slightly wider clearing. I think the issue with the forground clutter here is that the tree obstructing the engine in this case looks almost "cloudy" whereas the ones further back are a little more skeletal and would be less intrusive.

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Unfortunately there is no direct light for this scene. It's a cloudy day only location year round. The sun never comes North far enough to illuminate the track and falls.

Jon, I've got that shot too, and it throws the balance off imo.

The morning / evening blur may be an option though. Thanks Andrew!

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Well Loyd, I think the shot came out nice. As others have mentioned, the tree seems to be a bit distracting, although as many derailments as CSX has had in the New River Valley in the past year, they may just take that tree out for you one day.

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The sun never comes North far enough to illuminate the track and falls.
Is that train heading due north?
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Unfortunately there is no direct light for this scene. It's a cloudy day only location year round. The sun never comes North far enough to illuminate the track and falls.

Jon, I've got that shot too, and it throws the balance off imo.

The morning / evening blur may be an option though. Thanks Andrew!

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Anytime! I did notice that the tracks are running northeast/southwest here and in the valley the sun won't swing around and stay above the mountains which is a bummer. You may be able to get some side light in mid-June with the falls a little darker which wouldn't be awful.
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Is that train heading due north?
Not exactly: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...13154&t=h&z=17
(train goes on southeastern bank).
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Anytime! I did notice that the tracks are running northeast/southwest here and in the valley the sun won't swing around and stay above the mountains which is a bummer. You may be able to get some side light in mid-June with the falls a little darker which wouldn't be awful.
We'll figure something out, and pray the trees won't shut down a better overall photo next time..

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Is that train heading due north?
it might as well be. As shown in the google link above, the railroad hugs a 1800 foot tall hill that blocks any hope of good nose light for westbounds.

Summertime would yield good side light in the evening, but the trees in full leafiness would shut that shot down quick.

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it might as well be. As shown in the google link above, the railroad hugs a 1800 foot tall hill that blocks any hope of good nose light for westbounds.

Summertime would yield good side light in the evening, but the trees in full leafiness would shut that shot down quick.

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You should be able to get some decent side sunshine in the early spring before the leaves bud, no? Or is this section of track on the part of the s-curve where the track hooks back to the east?
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