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Old 05-28-2009, 08:23 PM   #26
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What? Why are Shutter and Aperature modes a "no no" for RP???? I know there are folks that use those and not just for RP...I just never saw anyone here say, "I use Sports mode for my shots."

I think you need to understand what you're talking about a tad bit better before making (incorrect) statements like that...

So Chris, this is what it would look like if his statements were true, "Reason for rejection; incorrect exposure mode used". Are you serious "jlev"????? I'm done with this guy!! Your on your own scooter!!! LOL

WOW!!!

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Old 05-29-2009, 12:35 AM   #27
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Here's that VRE shot, only it was accepted.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=285400&nseq=0

I need pointers for this one?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1064047106
And one of the Washington Metro. I took this shot like 8:15 in the morning.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=793509157

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Old 05-29-2009, 12:57 AM   #28
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Road Foreman, the exposure modes that you listed, I never use. In fact, not only are they really a no no for RP.net, but in general.

John - You couldn't be making a bigger mistake.

1) You can't shoot RAW in those modes, can you?

2) The camera picks the ISO in Sports mode.

3) Assuming you are shooting on a DSLR, thoe automatic modes are honestly there for the consumer crowd, not for folks serious about their photography.

I say all this as a guy who used those settings for a long time myself, and boy do I regret it now.

I'm paraphrasing someone else from these threads here, but I can't remember who said it... Having a DSLR and not using the priority settings is like having a Porche and only using it to go grocery shopping. Take some time to learn your camera and once you do those settings will be the only ones you want to shoot in, and having RAW files will be very important to you, and you will be a happier photographer.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:09 AM   #29
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Sorry to be harsh, John, but I look at that Metro shot and I think that you just aren't trying hard. You have enough shots on the database, you are not a newbie. That shot is horribly unlevel, look at the building.

Aside from that, I wouldn't call it high sun, but the light is somewhat unpleasant and for one the shot lacks in contrast, try more. The light is just blah, to use the technical term. And the shot is not sharpened, or not enough, something else that I think you should be paying more attention to by now.

The other shot, the subject is centered in the frame, it needs rule of thirds treatment.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:10 AM   #30
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Here's that VRE shot, only it was accepted.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=285400&nseq=0

I need pointers for this one?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1064047106
And one of the Washington Metro. I took this shot like 8:15 in the morning.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=793509157

Thanks.
I really am sorry for speaking up again, however, us folk keep telling you what is wrong with your exposure, composition, sharpness and even the best way to use your camera and it's options yet, instead of really reading, understanding and even questioning the posts, you continue to post more rejects of the same caliber with the same problems. It is very apparent that you really lack the basic concept of the exposure modes that your camera makes available to you, the photographer. This is not a problem for an absolute beginner but, you have photos accepted to this site and I am at a loss as to why you cannot see the similarities in your rejections. Please re-read the posts on this thread, maybe you will read something that you have missed the first time that you have read through it.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:39 AM   #31
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you continue to post more rejects of the same caliber with the same problems.
I think it maybe time to go out and shot some new ones if you can. Thinking about what you can be better and maybe plan a shot out ( see what it's going to look like before it's there) and bring some new shots to the table. You can do better.
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JRDMC,
Sorry to say this, but I think I'm doing my best. I have other tasks to deal with. I wish I could spend all the time posting on this website, so it might look like I'm not giving 100 percent effort, but I have other tasks to do. Yes, the Metro shot isn't the best. I think I oversharpened it. High sun issue isn't relevant, but I see that the sky isn't the best color. I am going to keep trying and learning. I think I'm reading too much, is my problem.
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jlev Take a step back, you know more now than a week ago. Take some test shots to play with and figure out what working and what's not, then shoot a train when the lights right and see if that helps.
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Sorry to say this, but I think I'm doing my best. I have other tasks to deal with. I wish I could spend all the time posting on this website, so it might look like I'm not giving 100 percent effort, but I have other tasks to do. Yes, the Metro shot isn't the best. I think I oversharpened it. High sun issue isn't relevant, but I see that the sky isn't the best color. I am going to keep trying and learning. I think I'm reading too much, is my problem.
Hey, it's a hobby, we all know that. And the issue isn't posting, it is processing. But on the other hand people are giving you lots of help. If you are not showing that you are benefiting from that help, why should anyone continue to give it?

Seeing an unlevel building isn't an advanced processing skill. The most important aspect of all of this is attention to detail - one can go a long way with just a few skills but with a focus on doing something well. Good luck, keep at it, give it the attention you can, but it takes some effort.
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Here is another shot of a different VRE train. I made an attempt to level the train, sharpen it, apply auto contrast to it, and of course, brighten it. Thank you for both positive and negative feedback.

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Here is another shot of a different VRE train.
Odd phrasing, this isn't another shot or a different train, rather, it is one of the shots with which you started this thread. A bit recropped, I think. I would take more off the right, and I would sharpen.

It is of course extremely similar to the accepted shot, different engine.
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Contrast still looks off to me.

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Road Foreman, the exposure modes that you listed, I never use. In fact, not only are they really a no no for RP.net, but in general.
Are you kidding?
You've got to be kidding.
There's no response to this except to question the sincerity of the statement.
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Are you kidding?
You've got to be kidding.
There's no response to this except to question the sincerity of the statement.
And to think I have been doing it all wrong all of these years.
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Here is a rejected shot of VRE unit # 01.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1067774270

Attached are attempted corrections of the shot, such as sharpen it a little more, and brighten it up.

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Road Foreman, the exposure modes that you listed, I never use. In fact, not only are they really a no no for RP.net, but in general.
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Sorry to say this, but I think I'm doing my best. I have other tasks to deal with.
Yes, you are certainy doing your best with avoidance of the comment above that several people have questioned you on. So, it would seem, your #1 task is addressing the comment above that you made to Kevin.
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And to think I have been doing it all wrong all of these years.
Did you know Ansel Adams, Nick Morant, O.W. Link and even Gary Knapp have all been doing it wrong??
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Since it seems that none of us (or, even yourself for that matter) can help you here, maybe Thom Hogan can; www.bythom.com . He explains exposure, sharpening, histograms and a plethora of other information.

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Okay, I'm back. So these shots were rejected for minor reasons.

I'm sure that more work needs to be done with the Metro shot in addition to the fact that its not sharp enough. In the attachment, I sharpened it better than I did in this rejection.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=159685914



Something tells me once I level the VRE shot, which I tried to do in the attachment, it will be accepted. I did my best to look at the station building for a reference as well as the light poles along the platform.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=563254429

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They're both postcard lighting on wedgies... they should get in if you just address the screeners' issues.
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They're both postcard lighting on wedgies....
Thank you Freericks. What do you mean by that quote?
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Postcard lighting is the kind of sunlight you see on postcards (essentially, perfectly lit).
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How are my photos that I attached; the VRE and Metro? I know that the main issue with the VRE has been leveling.
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Didnt you get one in the Database exactly like the VRE shot?

Edit: After a closer look it IS the same shot!?!?!
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The VRE photo you posted is identical to one already in the database. It's been rejected for being similar twice already.

Also, Is there also a reason that you've decided not to include the locomotive number in your uploads? Were I screening, I'd nail every one of them for Bad Info.

Your continual attempts to correct subpar photos and get them into the database are wearing thin. I told you previously that several of your photos couldn't be brought up to acceptable levels, but you keep trying over, and over, and over again. This is a prime case where I feel I'll likely have no choice but to refund the unused portion of your Elite membership and set your account back to a very low daily upload limit.
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