Old 07-25-2013, 06:20 AM   #1
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I appealed this (rare for me) because I don't see the problem. Same rejection: "horizon unlevel". Ant advice on how to fix this would be appreciated.

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Old 07-25-2013, 01:42 PM   #2
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Looks level to me.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #3
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Initial viewing of it without any grid, it appears to need some slight CCW, however, when you put a grid on it, the verticals on the locomotive check out. I think this may be a case in which the screener is seeing something not actually there, because I think I saw it, too... Appeal was probably the proper route...
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when you put a grid on it, the verticals on the locomotive check out. I think this may be a case in which the screener is seeing something not actually there, because I think I saw it, too... Appeal was probably the proper route...
Yep, that's what I told the screener(s) in my appeal - all the verticals check out. To no avail - rejected again. Ah, well, so it goes.

But thanks for confirming that I was not actually going nuts.

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Yep, that's what I told the screener(s) in my appeal - all the verticals check out. To no avail - rejected again. Ah, well, so it goes.

But thanks for confirming that I was not actually going nuts.

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Sorry to hear that. Who wants to bet the screeners didn't bother looking at it with a grid?
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Yep, that's what I told the screener(s) in my appeal - all the verticals check out. To no avail - rejected again. Ah, well, so it goes.

But thanks for confirming that I was not actually going nuts.

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Maybe that is what they are trying to do - "Question our sanity"

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Resubmit and put in the notes to screeners section that you rotated it .1% CCW.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:38 PM   #8
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Default Horizon unlevel: I don't see the problem : Ditto

Hi Paul

I had exactly the same problem this week!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...73&key=8050856

I put a grid on when I processed this and used the loco cab door, the ladders on the wagons and the tall lamp post as verticals. After checking with the grid a second time, I appealed......... and lo and behold, my appeal was rejected.

So if you thought you were going nuts, you are not alone!

By the way, any comments on my horizon will be welcomed....

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Eugene, 0.1 CW, the middle pole will be vertical, other parts of the image will be off by 0.1, the image will look a smidge better, and it will get in, whether you like it that way or not!
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What did you guys do before the "grid"? I remember when tripods with a bubble balance built in were the "thing."

It's not good to be such a slave to the "grid." Why would being off .1 of a piss ant's wing thickness be important? Either a shot is good....or some degree (pun intended) less than good. It's still quite subjective...even to the point of "level."
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Who needs a grid? Just drag the photo to the edge of your screen to check if verticals are level or not.
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Eugene, 0.1 CW, the middle pole will be vertical, other parts of the image will be off by 0.1, the image will look a smidge better, and it will get in, whether you like it that way or not!
Thanks Janusz, I'll give it a try.

Ron and Jim - occassionally I will use the grid, just to make sure my tired eyes aren't seeing things

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