Old 08-28-2018, 01:23 AM   #1
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I recently visited Cumbres Pass and was enjoying a kiosk with historic information when I noticed a picture that looked familiar. Looking closer it was indeed one of mine and properly credited, so i was not unhappy. The Friends of the C&TS have used my stuff before. What I found interesting, and the reason for this post, is the image happens to be one of my many RP rejections. At least it did not go totally unappreciated.
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Old 08-28-2018, 03:23 AM   #2
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Some of the worst photography out there often shows up on magazine covers, stories, flyers and, yes, even kiosks - fortunately, this does not apply to your image! Congratulations, John - it's not narrow gauge without a John West reference nearby!

I've had a few image "pop up" without notice, as well - and like you, for a non-profit, or even a "for profit" steam operation, I am fine without payment, but the courtesy of a heads up is something that sometimes goes unpaid.

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As I've said before, A lot of my most popular (sales, usage in trade, etc.), were RP rejects. The rest I've never got around to uploading.

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I used to trade slide (when that was still a thing) with a small group of people. It is amazing where some of those traders have ended up!
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:48 AM   #5
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As I have taken time is past to look at some of John's photos I find it surprising to see he had a lot of rejections, maybe some a while ago? Looks like a very good judge of value, not just posting something to post it.

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As I have taken time is past to look at some of John's photos I find it surprising to see he had a lot of rejections, maybe some a while ago? Looks like a very good judge of value, not just posting something to post it.

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Thanks for the kind words. You get to see only the ones accepted! And one tends to remember the rejections I guess.

I seem to remember back in the bad old days lots of issues about backlit shots, "moody" shots, artsy shots, and small train big scenery kind of shots, and so on. Both with regard to my stuff and others. My sense is, and maybe it is just me, that RP has evolved and embraced a wider range of styles, and a fair number of my shots were eventually accepted on appeal.
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"I seem to remember back in the bad old days lots of issues about backlit shots, "moody" shots, artsy shots, and small train big scenery kind of shots."

I was not on site back then, if you eliminated them today Screeners Choice would be empty??

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"I seem to remember back in the bad old days lots of issues about backlit shots, "moody" shots, artsy shots, and small train big scenery kind of shots."

I was not on site back then, if you eliminated them today Screeners Choice would be empty??

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At least in my mind RP has evolved a lot. As I remember it (and others may remember it differently) RP really liked (and still likes) well lit 3/4 front views (wedgies). More creative stuff was often accepted, but the perception at least among some was those pix was held to a higher standard. We joked about RP being the place for wedgies and wreck pics. Whether that was true or not, it certainly no longer is.
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At least in my mind RP has evolved a lot. As I remember it (and others may remember it differently) RP really liked (and still likes) well lit 3/4 front views (wedgies). More creative stuff was often accepted, but the perception at least among some was those pix was held to a higher standard. We joked about RP being the place for wedgies and wreck pics. Whether that was true or not, it certainly no longer is.
It's not so much, I think, that RP "liked" wedges, but rather, there was no legitimate reason to reject them... They broke no rules - specifically, it was not something left to discretion.

I agree, however - RP has seemingly become more flexible with the "rules" in regards to shots that "break rules" in part thanks to the likes of yourself, John - and several, long gone from RP like Michael Allen, Bob Avery, Robin Coumbes, Alan-John Crotty. RP admin needs to remind itself - you are only as good as the company you surround yourself with. Not saying they left due to lack of flexibility, though many have.

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I had a backlit photo these days. An international sleeper coming from Vienna (Austria) and bound for Zurich (Switzerland) took the route over the scenic Upper Allgäu line in southern Germany. The normal way over the Arlberg summit was closed due to (planned) line works. The train had been rerouted for four days only.

As I uploaded this picture, I wrote into the "Comments to Screeners" field: I know this image is backlit. But it is a very rare chance to spot an international sleeper on this scenic route...

And the picture has been accepted!

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I had a backlit photo these days. An international sleeper coming from Vienna (Austria) and bound for Zurich (Switzerland) took the route over the scenic Upper Allgäu line in southern Germany. The normal way over the Arlberg summit was closed due to (planned) line works. The train had been rerouted for four days only.

As I uploaded this picture, I wrote into the "Comments to Screeners" field: I know this image is backlit. But it is a very rare chance to spot an international sleeper on this scenic route...

And the picture has been accepted!

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/668940
Great scene, think it would/should have been accepted without comment but that is good idea - I see non-electrified line? and many sleeper routes have been dropped so not that common?

Going from Munich to Zurich via Vienna?? rough on the geography but seems like a good detour but likely reading it wrong.

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I had a backlit photo these days. An international sleeper coming from Vienna (Austria) and bound for Zurich (Switzerland) took the route over the scenic Upper Allgäu line in southern Germany. The normal way over the Arlberg summit was closed due to (planned) line works. The train had been rerouted for four days only.

As I uploaded this picture, I wrote into the "Comments to Screeners" field: I know this image is backlit. But it is a very rare chance to spot an international sleeper on this scenic route...

And the picture has been accepted!

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/668940
A beautiful train picture regardless of the reroute and non-electrification. Not really backlit so much as side lit, the side of the train has sun on it only the nose is a bit dark. This is really perfect lighting for scenic photography because the shadows create contrast and texture. This is a good example where the "rules" depend on the subject matter, a similar dark nose might not work so well if this were a roster shot.
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:20 AM   #13
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The freight car secret is out, I can't wait for the next version(s).

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Since you asked:

Image © Doug Lilly
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Don't think that it's easy to get them on. Over the years, I've had as many rejected as accepted.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:51 AM   #15
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I didn't mean freight cars in general, I meant the same one at the museum. Some of the IRM equipment shows up again and again. Some are mine but at least with snow. I have nothing against freight car roster shots I just couldn't see why mine was so objectionable.

Grammar Check please.

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