Old 11-01-2005, 06:48 PM   #1
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Default Confused about Bad Motive.

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Rejected for bad motive, which I don't understand because I and a couple other people have taken similar shots from this area with no problem.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:27 PM   #2
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Maybe it's a little too 'in your face' to be acceptable. That and it's UP...
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:42 PM   #3
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Did you try to Appeal the shot?
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:18 PM   #4
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I like it........and I couldn'y point out anything wrong with it.

By the way,how did you take the photo?
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:17 PM   #5
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A tripod, right F-stop, white balance, and a long exposure.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:36 PM   #6
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Default Bad motive

Ryan:
I can't answer the bad motive, personally I would appeal the photo and if rejected again ask for suggestions. I personally like night photos and this one is good in my eyes UP or otherwise (sorry Ween). But may be it's something simple for the future such as the brush in the shot, or the power box. You can't take the shot from the other side of the tracks and the only other option would be further back or more directly head on then you be dealing with the lights.
I feel it an excellent photo, may be a screener will chime in..Mr Bell?
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:53 PM   #7
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A tripod, right F-stop, white balance, and a long exposure.
OK. I know what a tripod is and a long exposure is.My camera Is capable of taking 4 to 30 sec exposures.But what does a "right F-stop" do?,and my camera is set on Auto White balance but do I have to set it to a different mode to get those kinda photos.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:47 AM   #8
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Love the first one, especially with the stars, moon and planet as added features!
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Dang! I like it. I would appeal.
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:16 AM   #10
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I like them . . . Bad Motive is hard to explain I suppose. But it does not stop them from being nice shots.
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But what does a "right F-stop" do?
An F-Stop is how much light the lens allows in. If your camera can take long exposures in shutter priority, then use that, otherwise, experement around with the F.Stop before you acually take the photo.. F5.6 8 sec has always worked for me
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It also affects how much depth of field, or the area thats in focus, you get. The smaller the f-stop(also known as aperature), the greater depth of field you get. On a camera though, they're numbered to mean 1 over that number. So in other words F/22 is actually 1/22 of an inch. Which means its smaller than F/5.6, which is 1/5.6 of an inch, and thus means you get less depth of field. Though the smaller the f/stop, the longer the exposure you'll need.
Tell me if you follow all that.
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So in other words F/22 is actually 1/22 of an inch. Which means its smaller than F/5.6, which is 1/5.6 of an inch, and thus means you get less depth of field.
Just in case you lost the subject like I did:

f/22 = more depth of field than f/5.6

That's how that's supposed to read, right?

When I want a blurry background, I shoot f/4, and when I want more of the background in acceptable focus, I'll use f/8.0 or greater...
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I enjoyed both night shots. They looked just fine to me.
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Just in case you lost the subject like I did:

f/22 = more depth of field than f/5.6

That's how that's supposed to read, right?

When I want a blurry background, I shoot f/4, and when I want more of the background in acceptable focus, I'll use f/8.0 or greater...
Pretty much. Though don't forget that the more depth of field you get, the longer the exposure you'll need.
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