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kszok 10-26-2013 05:02 PM

Canon 10D 6 MP
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MagnumForce 10-26-2013 05:39 PM

We have the worst weather ever? News to me! I just get out on weekends and shoot plenty of Sunny shots, shoot some cloudy ones too. You just have to work differently when it is cloudy. What is your point?

I would be willing to bet that more photos on here are taken at less than 14 MP than more than 14 MP too. I know plenty of people, myself included that have 10 and 8 MP cameras and get plenty of shots on here. Unless you are cropping heavily or blowing up something to the size of a barn it doesn't matter.

CSX1702 10-26-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171492)
We have the worst weather ever? News to me! I just get out on weekends and shoot plenty of Sunny shots, shoot some cloudy ones too. You just have to work differently when it is cloudy. What is your point?

My point is that where I live, there's nothing unique around here that would get a cloudy day shot on. And I'm glad you've had great weather because it's been cloudy down here for a week or more.

That's not even the point I was making though. I'll say it for 50th time, I don't have time to get out and when I do, it just happens to be a cloudy day.

WMHeilman 10-26-2013 06:12 PM

There's nothing unique in Cincy? Wow, you must be extremely sheltered.

MagnumForce 10-26-2013 06:26 PM

Nothing unique at all in Northwest Ohio, just a lot of trains. The Cinci area has some of the most unique stuff in the country so no issue there. I still see plenty of cloudy shots from myself and my group of friends that gets on up here. Doesn't have to be unique to get a cloudy shot on RP, just good. This idea that only sunny shots are accepted is totally absurd.

Shoot good stuff and you won't have an issue. Quit making excuses. You don't even need the best equipment to do that. There are groups in Flickr devoted to shots take with an IPhone for god's sake, and the shots are all amazing.

CSX1702 10-26-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WMHeilman (Post 171494)
There's nothing unique in Cincy? Wow, you must be extremely sheltered.

Easy there. My thing says Cincy but I actually live about 35 miles north. I just picked the closest city for that.

This is a shot from Cincy I would like to redo when I get the chance to go back down there.

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I'd like to get more of the skyline in it.

CSX1702 10-26-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171495)
Doesn't have to be unique to get a cloudy shot on RP, just good. This idea that only sunny shots are accepted is totally absurd.

Shoot good stuff and you won't have an issue. Quit making excuses. You don't even need the best equipment to do that. There are groups in Flickr devoted to shots take with an IPhone for god's sake, and the shots are all amazing.

I'm not making excuses. Why would I? It's just that in the small town I live in, there's nothing really that would make me want to take a cloudy day picture of a train. There would be nothing "special" about it. A cloudy day wedgie, who wants to see that?

WMHeilman 10-26-2013 07:13 PM

You could choose to not make it a wedgie? Come on, there are a million ways to shoot a train. You're holding yourself back.

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And just as proof that even cloudy day wedgies can be interesting.

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It's autumn right now. Fall colors pop on cloudy days. Go find some color.

MagnumForce 10-26-2013 07:27 PM

Who says you have to shoot wedgies? Come on dood, heck a broadside with a tree can be interesting if you do it right.

Are you a kid? Do you not have the ability to travel even a few miles away from home?

CSX1702 10-26-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171499)

Are you a kid? Do you not have the ability to travel even a few miles away from home?

For the 100th time now.....time.

WMHeilman 10-26-2013 08:04 PM

Then don't complain about getting good shots. Take what you can get when you can get it.

CSX1702 10-26-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WMHeilman (Post 171502)
Then don't complain about getting good shots. Take what you can get when you can get it.

Now with all that complaining I just did about cloudy days, when I took this there was "filtered sunlight" thing going on. I'm honestly amazed it got on.


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MagnumForce 10-26-2013 09:30 PM

I have neither time or money but am still able to easily go 10 miles east or west and catch a train in an hour. You live 30 miles north of Cinci, ok. On what line, the New Castle District? The Toledo Sub? Hamilton itself? What town do you live in?

30 miles north of Cinci is around Hamilton, and the area in an around Hamilton is one of the most varied and interesting locations in a state that has a lot of varied and interesting locations. Your arguments are still invalid.

http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?userid=23704

Wedges, wedges, more wedges, think outside the wedge box! You are only holding YOURSELF back.

Ween 10-26-2013 10:03 PM

You "only" have 14.2MP? Not an issue:

2MP Nikon Coolpix 2100 point-n-shoot:
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7.1MP Canon SD1000 point-n-shoot:
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Granted, the first one was back in RP's olden days, but still...megapixels and camera type aren't lim-facs. Half the battle is capturing the image, the other half is processing...if you're no good at one of them, the end result will suffer.

CSX1702 10-26-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171507)
30 miles north of Cinci is around Hamilton, and the area in an around Hamilton is one of the most varied and interesting locations in a state that has a lot of varied and interesting locations. Your arguments are still invalid.

Wedges, wedges, more wedges, think outside the wedge box! You are only holding YOURSELF back.

Yeah, when I am able to get out, its usually to Hamilton. The town I live in has the Toledo Sub and the NS Dayton District going through it.

I know I'm taking a lot of wedgies but it's hard to not take them when I can't practice thinking out of the wedge box.

CSX1702 10-26-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ween (Post 171508)

Granted, the first one was back in RP's olden days, but still...megapixels and camera type aren't lim-facs.

Yeah, I was told multiple times that megapixels were not the problem. I realized that after the first response to this thread.

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Half the battle is capturing the image, the other half is processing...if you're no good at one of them, the end result will suffer.
I'll admit I'm not the best at capturing or processing. I need to practice though, plain and simple.

CSX1702 10-27-2013 02:24 AM

So, what's the process with RAW? Open it up with a compatible program, edit it, and save as a jpeg?

Right now I'm using GIMP 2.8. And as far as I know, they haven't yet made a plugin for the 2.8 version. UFRaw is now a stand alone program for Windows and is not compatible with the new Gimp. I tried using the stand alone program and it's way too complicated for me to use.

So am I basically screwed until I can get Photoshop?

MagnumForce 10-27-2013 03:50 AM

Unless you know how to use it, I see no compelling reason to shoot in RAW and I don't think you will gain anything by doing so.

CSX1702 10-27-2013 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171516)
Unless you know how to use it, I see no compelling reason to shoot in RAW and I don't think you will gain anything by doing so.

I guess you're the only one.

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 171471)
You need to shoot raw then...

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Originally Posted by Dennis A. Livesey (Post 171476)

If you get deeper into photography, you will shoot RAW. And then you will say why didn't I do it sooner.

I dove into RAW the moment I had a camera that could do it. I have been blessed ever since.

This shot was saved because of RAW.

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Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 171460)

I do suggest shooting in RAW format and you should have your file size set to maximum.


MagnumForce 10-27-2013 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171516)
Unless you know how to use it,...you will gain nothing

You are missing that part of what I said and I bet that everyone of those guys that you quoted would agree with the quoted text above

Shooting in RAW helps exposure, and color balance. It does nothing for composition, sharpness, depth of field, cropping, motion blur, or essentially anything else.
It is not a magic bullet and cannot make lemonade from lemons.

My personal advice is put the thing in "P" at ISO 100 and learn composition before you worry about anything else at all. Once you do that learn about FStop and Shutter speed and depth of field and how to use them and how they all correlate with each other. But you can learn all that till you are blue in the face and it will not matter at all if you cannot compose an interesting and striking scene.

So again, shoot RAW if you want, but without everything else you will not gain anything at all from it. Heck I argue that if you shoot things only on sunny days and right to begin with, at 1024 or 1200 Pixels wide shooting in RAW doesn't gain you anything at all. But I know I am on the minority in that statement.

cblaz 10-27-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForce (Post 171519)
Shooting in RAW helps exposure, and color balance. It does nothing for composition, sharpness, depth of field, cropping, motion blur, or essentially anything else.
It is not a magic bullet and cannot make lemonade from lemons.

My personal advice is put the thing in "P" at ISO 100 and learn composition before you worry about anything else at all. Once you do that learn about FStop and Shutter speed and depth of field and how to use them and how they all correlate with each other. But you can learn all that till you are blue in the face and it will not matter at all if you cannot compose an interesting and striking scene.

So again, shoot RAW if you want, but without everything else you will not gain anything at all from it. Heck I argue that if you shoot things only on sunny days and right to begin with, at 1024 or 1200 Pixels wide shooting in RAW doesn't gain you anything at all. But I know I am on the minority in that statement.

This, a million times all of this. I shoot JPEG and RAW all the time, so if I have a shot that has some complicated lighting, I have the flexibility of RAW. However, just about all of my shots on RP have been edited using the JPEG. If you're just getting the hang of things, there's no need to deal with the hassles of RAW when editing a JPEG works perfectly fine for RP standards.

I will tell you to shoot on the highest JPEG setting you have though, and resize the shots down for RP. That will give you some leeway when working on shots. It is much more rewarding to learn the ins and outs of your camera by practicing using the manual mode so you have full control of the settings. The goal is to get the shot right in the camera instead of having to rely on RAW to "save" the shot.

- Chris

CSX1702 10-27-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cblaz (Post 171520)
I will tell you to shoot on the highest JPEG setting you have though, and resize the shots down for RP. That will give you some leeway when working on shots. It is much more rewarding to learn the ins and outs of your camera by practicing using the manual mode so you have full control of the settings. The goal is to get the shot right in the camera instead of having to rely on RAW to "save" the shot.

- Chris

Yeah I already do that. I shouldn't make it sound like I'm some kid with a Nikon running around in Auto all the time. I can usually get the exposure right, it's just that I have a hard time picturing an interesting scene in my mind so they end up being wedgies.

troy12n 10-28-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CSX1702 (Post 171443)
1. My camera only has 14.2 megapixels.

I glossed over this I guess. 14 megapixels is plenty. Every single shot I have on here is with a 40d (10mp) or 5d (12mp).

Dennis A. Livesey 10-28-2013 12:38 AM

Most on my shots on RP were done with a 10MP 40D as well.

CSX1702 10-28-2013 01:02 AM

Yeah, I figured out that megapixels weren't the problem after Janusz's first comment.


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