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Firefighter1019 05-13-2014 10:43 PM

Lightning tips
 
So I was out shooting last night because of health issue stress. So I wanted to play around with nightime settings and such. Well I happened upon a quick passing storm to the north and managed to somehow get a shot of lighting. Has anyone here attempted lightning shots before and if so what settings do you use?

Had a few people tell me to upload this this to RP. I knew they wouldnt except it do to there lightning standards so the bets where as to which would be the rejection reason. I lost the bet but still feel I one with an luck shot.

http://www.railpictures.net/images/d...1400001572.jpg

troy12n 05-13-2014 10:51 PM

What did they reject it for?

Fix the color temp or white balance, play with the levels and I think it could get on.

Firefighter1019 05-13-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 178645)
What did they reject it for?

Fix the color temp or white balance, play with the levels and I think it could get on.

Hit with Underexposed. I was going to play around with it and see. The lighting there at the yard is the orange sodium lights so that why I figured they would reject it for.

bigbassloyd 05-13-2014 11:57 PM

With work it could be a SC / PCA photo. Address the color cast, and do some exposure work on the ground to brighten it up some and back down the glare on the side of the locomotive.

For lightning, it's a total crap shoot. If you expose darker you miss the smaller strikes, expose too brightly, and you'll blow out the big ones. I generally shoot around iso 400, f8 and I close the shutter immediately after a strike, or after 30 seconds have passed.

There's no right or wrong way to go about it, as it's more luck than skill.

Loyd L.

CSX1702 05-13-2014 11:58 PM

I've shot lightning before a few times. Use a cable or remote release if you have one. I always used as high as an f-stop as I could and never had a need to raise the ISO since its a long exposure. I'd either set the camera to 30 seconds or held it open until the lightning hit.

That's the very basics though. Might want to wait for the more experienced to chime in. :lol:

I like your shot, btw.

EDIT: Reading Loyds comment, I'd go with his advice on the exposure. I was just trying to get the lightning and nothing else.

Mgoldman 05-14-2014 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 178645)
What did they reject it for?

Fix the color temp or white balance, play with the levels and I think it could get on.

Bingo - then go back with a flash or flash light to add light to the dark side of the subject. Or... give it a whirl on RP - maybe lightning will trump that issue.

I just corrected the color balance and adjusted the "curves" - found the blacks and whites.

/Mitch

Attachment 8592

Firefighter1019 05-14-2014 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mgoldman (Post 178654)
Bingo - then go back with a flash or flash light to add light to the dark side of the subject. Or... give it a whirl on RP - maybe lightning will trump that issue.

I just corrected the color balance and adjusted the "curves" - found the blacks and whites.

/Mitch

Attachment 8592

Looks good. I'll try messing around with the original and see how close I can get to it. Just outa curiosity what program did you use?

Firefighter1019 05-14-2014 12:47 AM

Thanks for the tips. Ive shot lightning before with good results sometimes, but they were always landscape shots. This was the first time with having foreground objects to worry about.

Firefighter1019 05-14-2014 01:34 AM

About as close as I can get it..
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7338/...9a6c19d2_s.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/123313...3/13994835278/

Chase55671 05-14-2014 02:07 AM

The latest color cast adjustments represented in Mitch's efforts feature a more accurate color cast. This is a great candidate for acceptance and has quite the thumbnail impact. I really hope to see this one resubmitted as I believe it would be a very well received image by the viewers.

Best,
Chase

Chase55671 05-14-2014 02:14 AM

Looks great! Thanks for sharing.

[photoid=481399]

Best,

Firefighter1019 05-14-2014 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase55671 (Post 178661)
Looks great! Thanks for sharing.

[photoid=481399]

Best,

Guess it got accepted =)
Thank you and major thanks to Mitch for the tip on what I needed to do to fix it. Thats what I love about the forum. Its criticism and help from others. :)

Mgoldman 05-14-2014 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter1019 (Post 178662)
Guess it got accepted =)
Thank you and major thanks to Mitch for the tip on what I needed to do to fix it. Thats what I love about the forum. Its criticism and help from others. :)

Congrats - I only put into a pic what Troy suggested. Looks great!

/Mitch

Firefighter1019 05-16-2014 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mgoldman (Post 178665)
Congrats - I only put into a pic what Troy suggested. Looks great!

/Mitch

Opps sorry Troy, thanks to you too.

CSX1702 05-16-2014 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter1019 (Post 178699)
Opps sorry Troy, thanks to you too.

Something never said before....

JimThias 05-26-2014 11:32 AM

Congrats on the #1 PCA. And if I were Chris Walters, I'd hate your shot for keeping me from hitting the trifecta. :lol:

Firefighter1019 05-28-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 178939)
Congrats on the #1 PCA. And if I were Chris Walters, I'd hate your shot for keeping me from hitting the trifecta. :lol:


Thanks Jim.. haha dont worry I wont let it happen again Chris

Holloran Grade 05-28-2014 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefighter1019 (Post 178646)
Hit with Underexposed. I was going to play around with it and see. The lighting there at the yard is the orange sodium lights so that why I figured they would reject it for.

It is instances like this that you will have wished to shot RAW format.

Firefighter1019 06-19-2014 09:58 PM

Hit with Noise on this one. Does the whole picture need noise reduction or just the sky?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...01&key=3541243

Chris Z 06-19-2014 10:50 PM

Most of the noise is towards the bottom of your photo from what I can see. Did you do some lightening up there?

Chris Z

Firefighter1019 06-20-2014 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Z (Post 179839)
Most of the noise is towards the bottom of your photo from what I can see. Did you do some lightening up there?

Chris Z

I used a Flashlight to paint the area during the exposure shot.

bigbassloyd 06-20-2014 12:57 AM

It's extremely noisy everywhere. I would have brought a bigger light to paint with, and backed waaaaaaaaaay off on the iso. Noise would have been reduced greatly, and you wouldn't have nuked parts of the lightning either.

Loyd L.

Firefighter1019 06-20-2014 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 179845)
It's extremely noisy everywhere. I would have brought a bigger light to paint with, and backed waaaaaaaaaay off on the iso. Noise would have been reduced greatly, and you wouldn't have nuked parts of the lightning either.

Loyd L.

Yeah the flashlight batteries were almost dead and it was pitch black there so I was playing around with iso and f/stop settings. Unfortunately the only bolt shot I got was with those settings. The rest of the shots were just lit up clouds from to much rain ahead of the lightning.

bigbassloyd 06-20-2014 01:38 AM

I know how it goes. I had a great night shooting lightning last week, and I figure I'll shoot lame ducks the next few times.

Loyd L.

Firefighter1019 06-20-2014 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 179850)
I know how it goes. I had a great night shooting lightning last week, and I figure I'll shoot lame ducks the next few times.

Loyd L.

Haha I shot lame ducks at work the day before. Its been a horrible year for t-storm here this year. Only had like 5 storms so far this year and 3 of them were afternooners.


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