RailPictures.Net Forums

RailPictures.Net Forums (http://www.railpictures.net/forums/index.php)
-   Railroad Photography Forum (http://www.railpictures.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9)
-   -   i think the screeners' "delete" button is stuck...any suggestions (http://www.railpictures.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13400)

coaststarlight14 01-20-2011 08:58 PM

i think the screeners' "delete" button is stuck...any suggestions
 
here are the photos in question:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=897120&key=0
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=601686629
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...8&key=68600387

NorfolkSouthernC40-8 01-20-2011 09:03 PM

1. The image has a lot of noise meaning even if it was cropped better it would probably get a noise/grainy rejection.
2. The train is too.... "squooshy," if you will.
3. The signal in the top left is cropped off poorly and distracting to the eye.

asis80 01-21-2011 12:00 AM

Basically, everything's too centered. The 1st and 3rd rejection really don't do well vertical, especially the 1st one. Either way, the image quality is a bit poor in all of them. I don't know what to say about the 2nd one except I don't think it's gonna make it.

Ben

JimThias 01-21-2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asis80 (Post 129446)
I don't know what to say about the 2nd one except I don't think it's gonna make it.

How about this...high sun. Actually, I believe the "bad angle" rejection comes from the angle at which he is shooting to the train, which is showing too much of the poorly lit side of the train and shadowed trucks.

GLC 392 01-21-2011 12:28 AM

The first one i agree train is way to far out and its also quite grainy. The second photo your butt doesn't count as part of the 3 points contact! :) and i agree with JT as well on that. The third photo i would have went for a more broadside shot of the engineers side of the train.

Greg P 01-21-2011 01:09 AM

1.) I actually like the idea your going for here, and assuming it's legal to stand where you took the picture, I think if you bring the train closer and make sure your shadow is pointing at the train, it has a chance.

2.) High sun. Pretty much, in the summer, you have morning and evening. All the daylight in between is for other pursuits.

3.) looks a bit backlit and in addition, the signal bridge is out of place.


Make sure when you photograph, your shadow is pointing at the train. RP is real big on good lighting on the front of the engine with these types of shots.

coborn35 01-21-2011 01:14 AM

I like #1.

JRMDC 01-21-2011 01:53 AM

No one has said this yet, so here goes, #1, RP does not like squares, and you have a near square crop.

I messed with it a bit but didn't find anything immediately satisfying, didn't spend that much time. So I am not sure whether a vertical or horizontal works better.

Greg P 01-21-2011 02:20 AM

What if you lower the angel a little bit so it looks like the tracks are pointing upwards a little to the engine?

stevenmwelch 01-21-2011 04:39 AM

What if you adventure down the street and not shoot from the station on the first shot? Seriously, you got a rare #1 main running NB Captiol and you don't blast it from somewhere within the square?

http://www.railpictures.net/showphot...ondon%20Square

Not trying to brag but I don't think I have a SINGLE image from that Amtrak station - platform level...

#2, try going to Harbour Way next time.

#3, don't bother.

Try shooting from the raised divider on the waterside of #1 track to shoot, good morning shots and works well if you're there for the weekday 9AM rush.

Holloran Grade 01-21-2011 05:22 AM

My thoughts.
 
Perhaps the 2nd most whored out spot West of the Mississippi?

Sorry, they are all the usual shots of Jack London Square - BFD.

The only one I do have some feeling for is #1, but the way the image is composed just kills it - near centered and square.

Also your on the wrong side of the engine in #2 - the wheels are in the shade.

They didn't ding you for that but if you could fix the angle, that would be their next reason to reject it.

On another note:

Steve, how did you get stuck in the wash?

I didn't think it was that soft on the 4th with the snow and the slush, but I stayed on the packed areas and didn't drive up the wash (that is illegal according to those signs painted on the bridge abutments).:grin:

coaststarlight14 01-21-2011 07:08 PM

well thanks for the comments, #1 is a legal spot, i can try to fix the cropping and my camera crapped out of batteries before the train came in, but i guess #2 is gone...#3 i'll try horizontal. Why did amtrak have to change the starlight's time to 2 hours later!!?!?!

coaststarlight14 01-21-2011 07:22 PM

4 Attachment(s)
any thing worthy here?
1: i changed the cropping
2: i wish there was no #$%^* shadow on the nose!
3: gahhhhh
4: Gahh?

coaststarlight14 01-21-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenmwelch (Post 129462)
What if you adventure down the street and not shoot from the station on the first shot? Seriously, you got a rare #1 main running NB Captiol and you don't blast it from somewhere within the square?

i was on a bike...no chance of getting anywhere faster than it...and i was waiting for the starlight which was the one on main 2.

IHapsias 01-21-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaststarlight14 (Post 129508)
i was on a bike...no chance of getting anywhere faster than it...and i was waiting for the starlight which was the one on main 2.

Put some thought as to where your going to shoot these trains. I have 4 shots in the DB that I wouldn't have gotten if it wasn't for a bike.

JimThias 01-21-2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaststarlight14 (Post 129507)
any thing worthy here?
1: i changed the cropping
2: i wish there was no #$%^* shadow on the nose!

1. Train is still too far away (per the rejection). Do you have a frame with it closer?

2. Why didn't you shoot a frame before the train got to the shadow?

coaststarlight14 01-22-2011 06:28 AM

i was waiting for the train to stop so i could get to that point...i was on the island platform...

stevenmwelch 01-22-2011 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaststarlight14 (Post 129582)
i was waiting for the train to stop so i could get to that point...i was on the island platform...

The shadowed nose shot has no island platform there.

BTW, El Roco, the sand was softer than I thought and I sunk right in! Luckily I used a floor-mat technique I learned for the snow and got myself out pretty easily. Hey, great meeting you at Fullerton the other night too!

Holloran Grade 01-22-2011 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenmwelch (Post 129584)
The shadowed nose shot has no island platform there.

BTW, El Roco, the sand was softer than I thought and I sunk right in! Luckily I used a floor-mat technique I learned for the snow and got myself out pretty easily. Hey, great meeting you at Fullerton the other night too!

Don't feel bad, BNSF got one of their trucks stuck on Davis Ranch Road too and they brought a backhoe out to come get it.

Yes, nice to meet you.:wink:

stevenmwelch 01-22-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 129585)
Don't feel bad, BNSF got one of their trucks stuck on Davis Ranch Road too and they brought a backhoe out to come get it.

I've seen many Rezenberger vans stuck before and heard stories of hi-railers getting stuck while setting off... I get stuck all the time (almost did yesterday), I'm used to it... Maybe I should stop being so adventurous...

coaststarlight14 01-22-2011 07:13 AM

near the north end

Holloran Grade 01-22-2011 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenmwelch (Post 129586)
I've seen many Rezenberger vans stuck before and heard stories of hi-railers getting stuck while setting off... I get stuck all the time (almost did yesterday), I'm used to it... Maybe I should stop being so adventurous...

Na, get a winch, a dead man, a good shovel and a set of tow chains.

When I was up there on the 4th, the roads got real yucky by the end of the day and I didn't even try to go all the way to CP Walker.

I went across the first ford of the creek and got up on the other side and the dirt was just slick as butter.

Since the light was gone I turned around (carefully) and went back out.

20 years ago I would have went for it just because I could, but I hate digging and I am smarter now, which is the way to rationalize getting old and lazy.:lol:

stevenmwelch 01-22-2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 129588)
Na, get a winch, a dead man, a good shovel and a set of tow chains.

Workin on the winch, its on my list.. Shovel was left on Donner plus, would be hard to bring with on the drive to New Mexico... ; - )

Quote:

20 years ago I would have went for it just because I could, but I hate digging and I am smarter now, which is the way to rationalize getting old and lazy.:lol:
That's funny reading YOU saying YOU'RE smarter now... :-D

Love the new avatar too.. I see you listened to Phillips!

Holloran Grade 01-22-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenmwelch (Post 129590)
...[some is missing]...Love the new avatar too.. I see you listened to Phillips!

I was busting his chops about it again tonight and this is the result.

Apparently I don't have a real life since my Avatar on some Web Site is such a big deal.:lol:

stevenmwelch 01-22-2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holloran Grade (Post 129592)
I was busting his chops about it again tonight and this is the result.

Apparently I don't have a real life since my Avatar on some Web Site is such a big deal.:lol:

Any good Swifts tonight?


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.