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Joseph Cermak 04-05-2018 02:41 AM

Color (hue)
 
I can usually figure these out, but this one has me at a loss as to where the color is. Is it too blue or too yellow? I'm really not sure. Anyone able to help out? Thanks!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...02&key=7898115

SAR Connecta 04-05-2018 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Cermak (Post 193837)
I can usually figure these out, but this one has me at a loss as to where the color is. Is it too blue or too yellow? I'm really not sure. Anyone able to help out? Thanks!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...02&key=7898115

Too "blue" Joseph.

SAR Connecta 04-05-2018 09:04 AM

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Difficult to fix hue issues without having the original, but seeing it a lot heavier and warmer, this is my quick edit of the rejected photo.

Attachment 9599

vcode455 04-05-2018 11:41 AM

Doesn't look overly blue on my screen, especially compared to some of the oversaturated stuff I've seen. Charles' retouch really pops but looks unnatural to me. Too much yellow. UP units come by me every day on coal trains and that faded leader is pretty accurate color wise on the original image.

Greg

bigbassloyd 04-05-2018 12:02 PM

The rejected is blue biased, and the one Charles suggested appears too saturated. I'd find a resolution somewhere between the two.

Loyd L.

RobJor 04-05-2018 12:03 PM

Don't you make my Brown eyes Blue?

Yes, you can make that faded yellow nose a near vibrant yellow. You can turn a cool bright blue spring day into a warm summer afternoon.

On the other hand I had to take rich warm summer afternoon shot into a bland mid day image to get it accepted and it still bothers me.

I really hate these rejections, try to homogenize scenes to some norm, taking individual interpretation out of it, probably running it through some tool.
On the other hand, at sunset you can do whatever and get a .......

This one, looks a little blue but on those bright blue cool days, that is the look you want? Ballast, hand rails, poles all look OK, no purple snow.

Bob

SAR Connecta 04-05-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 193841)
The rejected is blue biased, and the one Charles suggested appears too saturated. I'd find a resolution somewhere between the two.

Loyd L.

Agreed :-)

Joseph Cermak 04-05-2018 01:50 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll take a look at bringing it a little more yellow tonight, but yeah, the nose was very faded, you can compare the color of the leader to the brand new tier 4 ace you might notice like 3 or 4 back.

Joseph Cermak 04-05-2018 06:06 PM

Brought the white balance just a bit to the right, seems to have worked, thanks

[photoid=653949]

RobJor 04-05-2018 06:43 PM

[quote=Joseph Cermak;193845]Brought the white balance just a bit to the right, seems to have worked, thanks

My comment about the nose, if it had been a bright yellow the whole image could have appeared warmer. I'd say looking at the accepted and the rejected, there is a distinction without a difference or my color perception is just poor.
Little annoying to go through the dance.

Bob

JimThias 04-06-2018 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Cermak (Post 193845)
Brought the white balance just a bit to the right, seems to have worked, thanks

[photoid=653949]

Looks like an uncorrected upload to me. :lol:



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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193846)
I'd say looking at the accepted and the rejected, there is a distinction without a difference or my color perception is just poor.
Little annoying to go through the dance.

Bob

I put the rejected into one tab and the accepted into another, and then went back and forth. I could see no difference at all.

Joseph Cermak 04-06-2018 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 193847)
Looks like an uncorrected upload to me. :lol:
I put the rejected into one tab and the accepted into another, and then went back and forth. I could see no difference at all.

Well I only bumped it from 4500 to 4800 so it's a pretty minor adjustment...any more seemed too yellow.

vcode455 04-06-2018 11:37 AM

What Jim says. I was hard pressed to tell the difference.

Joseph Cermak 04-06-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vcode455 (Post 193849)
What Jim says. I was hard pressed to tell the difference.

Do you thin it's still too blue? I can always edit it and reupload if it's still off in color.

miningcamper1 04-06-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Cermak (Post 193850)
Do you thin it's still too blue? I can always edit it and reupload if it's still off in color.

The faded paint on the leader is a negative IMO. Maybe selectively enhance just the yellow?

RobJor 04-06-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vcode455 (Post 193849)
What Jim says. I was hard pressed to tell the difference.

Not to beat this thread to .... but I know for a fact would not be the first time an image was "updated" but the original was uploaded by mistake and accepted.

Joseph Cermak 04-08-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193852)
Not to beat this thread to .... but I know for a fact would not be the first time an image was "updated" but the original was uploaded by mistake and accepted.

I reuploaded a copy and made sure it was the new version. I only adjusted the white balance by +200 so it is pretty subtle, but wanted to make sure I hadn't submitted an old version.

[photoid=653949]

JimThias 04-10-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Cermak (Post 193848)
Well I only bumped it from 4500 to 4800 so it's a pretty minor adjustment...any more seemed too yellow.

Point being, the original was just fine. :-)

troy12n 04-10-2018 07:49 PM

i know you don't want to hear this, but that's a pretty crappy photo location, all those wooden poles and wires are pretty distracting

Joseph Cermak 04-10-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 193862)
i know you don't want to hear this, but that's a pretty crappy photo location, all those wooden poles and wires are pretty distracting

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not...but those are kind of the point. Running a coal train with big UP power on the South Shore, not just a random coal train anywhere.

bigbassloyd 04-10-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 193862)
i know you don't want to hear this, but that's a pretty crappy photo location, all those wooden poles and wires are pretty distracting

That's kinda the point when shooting the occasional coal train on the Electrified South Shore lol



Loyd L.

chris crook 04-11-2018 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 193862)
i know you don't want to hear this, but that's a pretty crappy photo location, all those wooden poles and wires are pretty distracting

You must be a joy on the interstate.

JimThias 04-11-2018 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by troy12n (Post 193862)
i know you don't want to hear this, but that's a pretty crappy photo location, all those wooden poles and wires are pretty distracting

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vcode455 04-13-2018 11:43 AM

I like the photo because of the poles. I would not "enhance" the color of the lead loco. Why turn it into something it is not? Might as well turn it red and say it has a CP leader........

miningcamper1 04-13-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vcode455 (Post 193883)
I would not "enhance" the color of the lead loco. Why turn it into something it is not?

Eye appeal. :lol:

RobJor 04-13-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by miningcamper1 (Post 193884)
Eye appeal. :lol:

That would be eye candy, LOL. Usually applied to other types of photos.

This one was eye candy for me.

[photoid=654714]

Rainbow Canyon is a place I went several years and always thought how great it would be for a UP passenger train. Ted doesn't post too much but can be anywhere, anytime, something I enjoy doing.

Bob Jordan

bigbassloyd 04-13-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193885)

Rainbow Canyon is a place I went several years and always thought how great it would be for a UP passenger train. Ted doesn't post too much but can be anywhere, anytime, something I enjoy doing.

Bob Jordan

It's quite stunning. I should have devoted a little time to rail fanning in January, but there was too many other photographic targets to hit.

PS, are apologies in order for the deletion of your rejection thread? :D

Loyd L.

RobJor 04-13-2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 193886)
It's quite stunning. I should have devoted a little time to rail fanning in January, but there was too many other photographic targets to hit.

PS, are apologies in order for the deletion of your rejection thread? :D

Loyd L.

November is fantastic with the trees in the wash turning, but days are short and shadows creep in fast. Wish I had spent more time with the depot, wonder what could do now digital. Here is depot with little snow in December. The other thing I should maybe avoid.

Bob

miningcamper1 04-13-2018 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 193886)

PS, are apologies in order for the deletion of your rejection thread? :D

Removed? An innocuous thread if there ever was one. :confused:

Joseph Cermak 04-13-2018 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by miningcamper1 (Post 193888)
Removed? An innocuous thread if there ever was one. :confused:

It seems that with admin being more active in the forums any call out of an accepted photo results in the thread being deleted.

RobJor 04-13-2018 11:59 PM

I should stay out of this but there was final post(I think was final) that was a little over the top(ie personal) that you guys may have not seen. You may guess who.

Bob

Joseph Cermak 04-14-2018 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193890)
I should stay out of this but there was final post(I think was final) that was a little over the top(ie personal) that you guys may have not seen. You may guess who.

Bob

Yeah I didn't see that, just refreshed the forum page and the thread was gone so that may explain it.

Decapod401 04-14-2018 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193890)
I should stay out of this but there was final post(I think was final) that was a little over the top(ie personal) that you guys may have not seen. You may guess who.

Bob

I wondered what happened to cause the demise of that thread. I didn't see the last post, but my guess would be the ambassador to Ohio.

bigbassloyd 04-14-2018 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193890)
I should stay out of this but there was final post(I think was final) that was a little over the top(ie personal) that you guys may have not seen. You may guess who.

Bob

I didn't see anything, as it was gone when I checked in while at work. Oh well.

Loyd L.

miningcamper1 04-14-2018 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Decapod401 (Post 193892)
I wondered what happened to cause the demise of that thread. I didn't see the last post, but my guess would be the ambassador to Ohio.

Deleting the entire thread is a bit extreme. Why not just delete the offending post(s)?

troy12n 04-14-2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by miningcamper1 (Post 193894)
Deleting the entire thread is a bit extreme. Why not just delete the offending post(s)?

Did they delete that entire thread because I called out Matt Donnelleys crappy photo?

JimThias 04-15-2018 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193887)
Here is depot with little snow in December. The other thing I should maybe avoid.

Bob

That and using an on-camera flash when it's snowing. ;-)

RobJor 04-15-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 193896)
That and using an on-camera flash when it's snowing. ;-)

OK! Here.

Bob

JimThias 04-16-2018 02:01 AM

Now just level it and you're all good. :D

miningcamper1 04-16-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RobJor (Post 193897)
OK! Here.

Bob

I like that with just a bit more light on the mountains. A little tight at left and right. Got a slightly wider view?


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