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coaststarlight14 11-19-2013 04:03 AM

Bad angle...?
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...10&key=3633962

Anybody want to expand on what the screener is saying?


what would be better for next time?


Thanks guys
-DH

CSX1702 11-19-2013 04:18 AM

You may want to appeal and tell them the train is being operated from the cabcar. :lol:

JimThias 11-19-2013 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSX1702 (Post 172224)
You may want to appeal and tell them the train is being operated from the cabcar. :lol:

That shouldn't make a difference. There are oodles of going away glint shots on RP.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about this image just isn't "right." Not saying it's a bad photo, as I quite like it, but it needs something. Maybe some more contrast? The sun looks a little strong...if there's a way to tone that down, maybe the "bad angle" rejection won't come into play.

magicman_841 11-19-2013 06:34 AM

Way too much sky.

And yes, it needs more contrast.

mark woody 11-19-2013 09:48 AM

Love the shot, had a go as I see it in PSE 7, histogram weak on the black side slightly, contrast up 22, shadow + 10, highlights -15 midtone contrast 15, unsharp mask 40/.5/0 recropped slightly.

jdirelan87 11-19-2013 10:02 AM

As other have mentioned, something is off with contrast and colors of the sun. Looks as if the photo was taken through a dirty window.

troy12n 11-19-2013 12:25 PM

It's awful noisy

Cab cars leading dont do much for me personally.

coaststarlight14 11-20-2013 06:52 PM

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...98&key=1727439

I've basically having a back and forth war with different screeners wanting different stuff. bad cropping, undersharpened, bad angle again. I don't know what to do at this point, I've appealed several times but none of them have been looked at.

With the photo i've been doing all the little changes they want in addition to what you reccomended, i've added contrast, boosted the reds of the sun, sharpened, toned down noise, and who knows what else.

Should i just give up at this point? One of them clearly doesn't want this picture on the website and it's really making my blood boil since (i think) it's a great photo and they seem to just not want an amateur posting stuff other than wedgies...

Okay, i'm done ranting. Let the flood of recommended changes and whatnot commence.

-DH

CSX1702 11-20-2013 07:15 PM

That's a bull crap rejection. That's a really nice picture.

Joe the Photog 11-20-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 172226)
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about this image just isn't "right." Not saying it's a bad photo, as I quite like it, but it needs something. Maybe some more contrast? The sun looks a little strong...if there's a way to tone that down, maybe the "bad angle" rejection won't come into play.

My first reaction was that it looked like the shot was taken from a car... with the windows rolled up. (Editted to add that I wasn't the first to post something like this.) Also, the image looks soft.

travsirocz 11-20-2013 08:25 PM

The thing that I would fix would be to crop that rock out in the lower right.

bigbassloyd 11-20-2013 11:56 PM

The image quality looks really bad everywhere but the train. The grass and trees have no definition at all. Did you go bonkers with the noise reduction?

Loyd L.

coaststarlight14 11-21-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 172273)
Did you go bonkers with the noise reduction?

Loyd L.

Yeah, bonkers x10^99 ;)

Went back to the RAW and did some things different. Dialed down the sun, less noise reduction, tried to get rid of the "through a window" feel. I don't have a lens filter, so that could be that problem.

JimThias 11-21-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaststarlight14 (Post 172275)
I don't have a lens filter, so that could be that problem.

For what purpose would the lens filter be used?

Holloran Grade 11-21-2013 06:18 PM

Three ideas -

(1) Crop the right side to get rid of the rock.

Sometimes rocks work, but not parts of a rock.

[photoid=430735]

(2) Selectively choose the white area of the sun and dial down the brightness - it is overpowering.

(3) If you know how HDR / Tone Map the image and bring the texture of the clouds out.

This could look real good.:wink:


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