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Greg P 05-09-2013 07:19 PM

I must have forgot how to crop
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...42&key=2110805

Joe the Photog 05-09-2013 08:01 PM

Too centered both veritcally and horizontally. Also too squished up top. I'd like to see the other locomotives up top as well as the tower *not* be cut off.

KevinM 05-09-2013 08:02 PM

Hi Greg,

You may want to post what the original frame looks like, so folks can see what you have to work with.

My first impression is that there are numerous elements right at the top (tower, locomotives, cars, etc.) that are cut off. It would be better to either show them in their entirety, or crop tighter such that they are not visible. Honestly, something is telling me that it would have been better to compose this as a vertical.

cblaz 05-10-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinM (Post 166445)
My first impression is that there are numerous elements right at the top (tower, locomotives, cars, etc.) that are cut off. It would be better to either show them in their entirety...

I agree with Kevin. Hopefully, you have enough space to do something like this:

[photoid=317593]
[photoid=268277]
[photoid=173897]

The most important thing is to not cut off a "prop" like the tower, which gives the photo a sense of place.

- Chris

Greg P 05-11-2013 07:16 PM

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...66&key=4198694

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...71&key=5464497

This one confused me because when i leveled, the grid line is straight across the building

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...75&key=7547000

The telephone polls?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...32&key=8983233

I came in on this one to remove some of the polls

JRMDC 05-11-2013 11:47 PM

1) the engine at the top, in, or out, but not halfway in
2) if the horizon is level then a note to the screener is needed explaining why the engine itself is tilting over so much!
3) no strong feelings other than it's too dark. Too tight all around, probably.
4) tired of looking at this set :) Maybe caught the engine too late, previous frame?

tytrain 05-13-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg P (Post 166513)
[url]
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...75&key=7547000

The telephone polls?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...32&key=8983233

I came in on this one to remove some of the polls

Not enough space on the bottom of each of these, I'd say.

Joe the Photog 05-13-2013 03:42 PM

1.) Needs more room on top for two reasons, 1.) As is the train is centered in the shot adn 2.) as mentioned previously more than once in this thread, don't cut the engines off at the top. As Janusz said, either crop them out or leave them in. No halfway stuff. But in this shot, they need to be in.

2.) I think it could use a little CCW rotation judging from the poles and building in the background,but not enough to "level" the engine, so as noted, a note to the screen may be in order.

3.) Way too tight on the bottom and might need some room up top, tooo.

4.) Too tight on the bottom again adn maybe the right side of the frame.

All should be easy enough to fix.

lalam 05-14-2013 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg P (Post 166513)

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...71&key=5464497

This one confused me because when i leveled, the grid line is straight across the building

Requires 0.3 deg CW. And just remove the half cut pole on right from the frame & should be fine in my personal opinion.

wds 05-14-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lalam (Post 166533)
Requires 0.3 deg CW...

I'd say he means CCW. Plop a grid over the image before downsizing it and make that tower's sides match the verticals. Don't go by the roofline as horizontals can appear off-kilter even when they are not if they aren't exactly parallel to the sensor plane. Also, even if the tower is leaning in comparison to the building in the background it grabs the eye more, and combined with the loco leaning is probably enough to make the image appear unlevel although that may not be the case. Remember, when it comes to level, appearances count more than reality for RP purposes. ;)

lalam 05-14-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wds (Post 166539)
I'd say he means CCW.

Sir
Matching the verticals on the reddish building behind the tower still showing requirement of 0.2 to 0.3 deg CW. I may be wrong as it needs to enlarge the image by 400%+ to judge it.

wds 05-14-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lalam (Post 166540)
Sir
Matching the verticals on the reddish building behind the tower still showing requirement of 0.2 to 0.3 deg CW. I may be wrong as it needs to enlarge the image by 400%+ to judge it.


Sorry, no matter how much I enlarge this I can see no need to rotate it clockwise. And the larger I make it I can see no need to rotate it at all to make the buildings in the background vertical, as they seem to be quite vertical as they are upon microscopic inspection.

Attachment 8016

So like I said previously, it all comes down to appearances, and I'll stand by my belief that they are getting thrown off by the angle of the locomotive and the apparent angle of the tower. Appeal, and if it's rejected again I don't know what to do as rotating it to even partially correct the loco will make the rest of the image appear obviously canted counterclockwise. Then again, I'm blind so don't take my word for it, take Jim's! :) Jim, where are you??

JimThias 05-14-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wds (Post 166542)
Then again, I'm blind so don't take my word for it, take Jim's! :) Jim, where are you??

I think I can see the monkey's pubic hair in that blown up pic! :lol:

Greg P 05-14-2013 09:07 PM

Good call on going verticle instead of horozontal.

[photoid=436015]

wds 05-14-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 166543)
I think I can see the monkey's pubic hair in that blown up pic! :lol:

Righto, Jim, but it's a blond monkey so does it really count? :grin: Apparently so as it made it in! Congrats, Greg!


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