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miningcamper1 01-10-2019 05:13 PM

Are we in a recession???
 
Someone posted this link below a photo of stored UP power:

https://www.progressiverailroading.c...me-soon--20598

EDIT- Not a current article. But there is still room for discussion about why UP and NS have so much power stored.

NorthWest 01-10-2019 06:41 PM

No; if one looks at AAR data, carloads are steady.

It's part of UP's Precision Scheduled Railroad initiative to run the same amount of tonnage with fewer locomotives.

We'll see how this ultimately turns out...

miningcamper1 01-10-2019 07:31 PM

I'll take your word for that.

As for running the same amount of tonnage with fewer locomotives, are we talking short fast trains that run on a schedule, or are we talking drag freights? Fewer locomotives sounds like drag freights!

Seems like these new operating plans come and go. (mostly go!)

NorthWest 01-11-2019 12:07 AM

I think that the article is dated June 2009?
A lot of PSR is longer trains and fewer trains (combining manifests with unit trains, etc).
Much of it is also focused on limiting weekly variations so the same amount of power is needed each day.
It also often involves running power short...

miningcamper1 01-11-2019 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthWest (Post 195167)
I think that the article is dated June 2009?

Ouch! Didn't notice that.
I wonder if the person who posted the link noticed that little detail.

Longer trains and fewer trains- that sure sounds like SP drag freights!
If they can keep the power rolling more hours of the day rather than idling in an engine terminal, that would be good. Holding tonnage for lack of power, or holding a train until there is enough tonnage, not so good.
We'll see how shippers like all this. Especially the ones who want their stuff fast.

bigbassloyd 01-11-2019 01:22 AM

CSX has fully embraced the less is more mentality here on the C&O. 220-230 car DPU equipped 30,000 ton coal trains are now the norm. Even our manifest runs as a DPU monster. Less crews, less power, more delays and confusion.

Loyd L.

NorthWest 01-11-2019 01:22 AM

Hard to tell. This type of thing happens to everyone.

miningcamper1 01-11-2019 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbassloyd (Post 195170)
CSX has fully embraced the less is more mentality here on the C&O. 220-230 car DPU equipped 30,000 ton coal trains are now the norm. Even our manifest runs as a DPU monster. Less crews, less power, more delays and confusion.

Loyd L.

Practically every time I attempted a day of shooting on the old C&O lines, the crickets were chirping. For hours and hours. So I avoided it in favor of busier and/or more scenic lines. Is it much different nowadays?

bigbassloyd 01-11-2019 12:23 PM

8-18 trains every 24 hours. Combining 2 unit trains into 1 (grain and coal) didn't help. While I usually don't railfan my home railroad much (I've literally shot every shot shootable over the last 12 years), it still has some charm.

Loyd L.


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