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sd9 05-04-2010 09:59 PM

sun to low?
 
after getting rejected for cropping, I backed out a bit but then then I got the poor lighting reject, so I am assuming it should be lit up better on the sides? (not glinty enough I guess) but then you would lose the orange glow, so, forget about it or lighten it up?
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=208220658

Bill

Arne H. B. 05-04-2010 10:05 PM

Looks like the lighting is good to me, maybe there needs to be some light on the trucks and undercarriage?

asis80 05-04-2010 10:22 PM

It's really not a strong enough glint "effect" for me. I'm not a huge fan of it at all, too much in your face, if you ask me. Looks like a dark shooting into the sun shot as it stands.

Ben

ken45 05-04-2010 10:35 PM

Ick...you nuked that one pretty good. Looks like you thought you could process out the problems in the original photo. Rather than trying to figure out what you did, I'll just say that this one is killed because the front of the locomotive doesn't pop from its surroundings, one of my cardinal rules for getting a decent glint wedgie.

JimThias 05-05-2010 01:55 AM

Bill, do you have a shot where the train is farther back and the rails are glowing, kind of like this?

[photoid=289891]

GIZMO 05-05-2010 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd9 (Post 113991)
after getting rejected for cropping, I backed out a bit but then then I got the poor lighting reject, so I am assuming it should be lit up better on the sides? (not glinty enough I guess) but then you would lose the orange glow, so, forget about it or lighten it up?
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=208220658

Bill

Your pixel counts are getting pretty low at 211 kb. That suggests to me that you are losing pixels from "cropping." I use what I call "Zoom & Grab" which uses the full resolution of the monitor, giving lots bigger files and lots less data loss.

Are you using something like a 70-300 lens? Your EXIF data lists 70 mm focal length. (With Zoom & Grab you lose your EXIF reference.) I am a fan of lenses in the 18-200 or 18-270 class. With such a lens one could wait until the train was much closer and pop him with flash to show the part now back lit and still get the glint down the side. Nikon does a lot of song and dance about "fill flash" in their manuals but it’s best to just start experimenting when you want to bring out things in the shadows. From your lingo you seem to be an insider and I assume you get away with using flash without getting arrested, whatever the charges might be.

Discussion of “Zoom & Grab.”

I find ACDSEE as good as anything for viewing and organizing images. For example one merely needs draw a box around an area of interest and click inside it and that area immediately fills the screen. I have not met anybody who has seen anything slicker or quicker.

I keep CaptureWizPro sitting on the edge of my screen. Hit <F9> draw a box around the part of the screen of interest and the program grabs the image, gives it an ascending file name and that is it. There are other options too but that is slickest.

http://www.acdsee.com/support/products/acdsee/2009 $70 with 30 day free trial.

http://www.pixelmetrics.com/CapWizPro/index.htm $40 with 30 day free trial.

Both companies are easy to work with, being friendly and non-predatory.

I like the combination of these two programs to carry out what I call “Zoom & Grab” which results in little or no loss of pixels if done right, since one is using the entire screen, rather than the loss of pixels that occurs with “cropping.” I suspect cropping when different images on this site by the same viewer show lots of variation in file size and I suspect that in many cases “Zoom & Grab” would have resulted in better image quality.

In a similar vein, the fastest way to look at images on FLICKR seems to be in slide show format and these images yield nicely to reaching out and grabbing them with CaptureWizPro, since they do not respond the same way as .JPEG’s would, since they are in JAVA.

JimThias 05-05-2010 03:27 AM

What the hell are you babbling about?? http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/5.gif

GIZMO 05-05-2010 03:29 AM

Pixel counts.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 114013)
What the hell are you babbling about?? http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/5.gif

Just trying to get his pixel counts up.

sd9 05-05-2010 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 114005)
Bill, do you have a shot where the train is farther back and the rails are glowing, kind of like this?

[photoid=289891]

No, not this time, I was kinda going for the head silhouette, in the window thing, and was hoping for a little better light in that area, I like the point Ken brought up "killed because the front of the locomotive doesn't pop from its surroundings" have to keep that in mind for next time

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimThias (Post 114013)
What the hell are you babbling about?? http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/5.gif

I was thinking the same thing..I wonder if he read that part that said,
-- your photo will be slightly compressed and reduced in filesize automatically when you upload!


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